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Looking at it From TN perspective, the first thing, top of my head, I can think of is that they really might be lacking some specific surface platforms :rolleyes:

If that is the case, i e putting them in the bag as part of a lump sum deal that would have involved some level of strategic partnership, then yeah, I’d swallow that sugar coated stuff happily but the impression I get now is that they just wanna sell stuff. Don’t quote me on it, though. Only my...

Well I can promise you that it definitely matters for Turkey now when stuff is “old, new, rotten, ragged as long as it's American” First of all, It’s been years since we purchased anything from the USA or Germany for that matter. As a matter of fact, at one American defense site, it was...

Dude, It has been discussed a while back in the forum when it first came out. I’m on the opposing front and no they are not junks but not at desired level with the future TN fleet structure either. Their only superior feature as I can gather is their sonars. Other than that, there is not a...

Didn’t see anything regarding that matter in the briefing but really wish that it would be an integral one rather than a pod.

You make a good point here however as you illustrate it, swooping down to 2km or so means it will have to leave its safe zone up there, diminish its low RCS and radar signatures advantages only to be visible to the naked eye and plunge into, perhaps a “SAM Valley” or perhaps a carefully and...

Hope he does. Fun fact about Turkey: No matter how behind she is in any technology, she has proved many times since the founding of the republic that once determined to acquire a given technology, she eventually gets there either incrementally over time or just pops out at the finish line!

I agree that a 30mm cannon on any aircraft would make it a natural candidate for CAS operations but why would you deviate KE from its main purpose while there are other cost effective UAV solutions in your inventory with precision kill capabilities from specific altitudes on any soft target...

Well, don’t get me wrong, TB2 is a capable little devil and it proved itself but like you said comparing mission effectiveness and wide variety of mission profiles, Akinci I believe in another league.

So true. With its payload, including bvr and cruise missiles and not mention long range and endurance, it is a strategic asset that we must be very cautious while selecting users.

Again, driving Turkey toward a political choke point with any available excuse written in the book. As a Circassian descendant I can testify that I’ve never witnessed an assimilation toward my people as a government policy. Saying that, if there were some cases of grievances by individual...

it’s very shagadelic, baby! :giggle:

(y) “You can talk the talk. But can you walk the walk?” :LOL:

She is totally serving the official cliche line to so called liberal media. And no, they are not dumb. The truth is no concern here. The end goal is a political one, not humanitarian and you and I already know that. They just wanna hear these lines of “persecution” against particular minorities...

You are the best (y)

Beautiful. Thank you @Boz Now, you know what would be awesome? A terrain camo. I always imagined this beauty more in a CAS role. And tbh it would be a change after decades of low visibility two tone gray camo. EDIT: of course, if you are free and if it’s not a problem :) EDIT: Come to think...

Good luck with that. It’s been posted many times before in this forum by posters, including me, and on other social media outlets alike. Nothing beats the sound of a roaring jet engine, a roaring tank engine. I am convinced now that these “clips” are edited by some office employees of these...

Ah, what happened to those good ole bayrams *sigh*

Ramazan Bayramınız mübarek olsun. Eid Mubarak All 🥟🥠🍩🥧🍦🥮🍨🍰🧁 May it be as sweet as these and a happy one with loved ones ☺️

Ya for crying out loud ya!!! Please stop adding f***** songs, music to military vehicle footage yaw! Any clip I click on, right away I turn the sound off. I wait for this stuff for twenty years, god damn it. It‘s turned into a “social media“ disease now. I wanna hear those f***** jet, tank...