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  1. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Either French or Russian, we got relationship with them good enough though but the Russian is not good lately caused by the sanction
  2. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    No need to be secret secret lah, if Indonesian government decided to go SSN, they should doing it with great fanfare as much as possible with the origin countries (let say the Frenchi) as it would be mean deterrence and relationship at the highest level And i think Indonesia should cultivated...
  3. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Brazil got Nuclear powered Submarine from France right? With this kind of development, as Indonesia government itself very concerned about this issue and carefully studying the impact of Australia's power projection capability it would be sooner than later Indonesia would trying to get on their...
  4. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    let me be honest, never put all of your eggs in one basket unless you already can build it yourself (including the subcomponent and critical technologies) just like what the Turk did with their MILGEM project right now. Indonesia and UK, historically had been engage in open conflict (and the...
  5. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Menhan RI Prabowo Subianto menghadiri penandatanganan Kontrak Kapal Frigat TNI AL Type 31 antara PT PAL dan Babcock Internasional pada pameran DSEI di Inggris Jumat, 17 September 2021 London, Inggris (16/9/2021). Menteri Pertahanan RI Prabowo Subianto didampingi oleh Dubes RI untuk...
  6. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Type 26? No thanks, they are quite expensive far more than FREMM of any variants Type 31 aka AH140 is one of the most reasonable in term of prices FFM 30 is too reasonably much more fit in our wallet Deep down, Indonesia is very sensitive about prices and financing term though
  7. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Maybe there is slot under interim transport aircraft programme
  8. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    To be honest, the French Scorpene is not giving much edge toward our competitor in the region (well our aim should be Australian and China) , if we can get something like Soryu class then it would be better. Or else going up toward Baracuda SSN is more better. (Though i don't think we are ready...
  9. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Frenchi lately got bitter and histerical, after they lost opportunity in Indonesia (Italian FREMM debut worth five Billion US Dollar) , now they are looking their old good rival the UK with their cousin country US grab the Australian Submarine Mega deal (well Australian is UK and US protege in...
  10. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Italian Frigates, English (Danish) Frigates and hopefully Japanese Frigates deal soon Indonesia aim is to compete against Australia and China high end surface combatant warships assets
  11. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    That's why they need to import some technology from aboard, getting a sample of one best design aboard and Made study about it, getting the necessary knowledge and technical skill to further improve the local design. Not necessarily abandon them but to get the new technology it is.
  12. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    That's good lah, the Babcock finally prefail over the unknown calamity
  13. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    The US, China can do with accumulation of knowledge and gathering of technology and absorb the best even from their allies and competitor humbly without regarding their own as best of the best. Even super power technology like US don't mind to order the best from aboard and stimulate their local...
  14. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Not only PAL, PINDAD and PT DI had more or less similar problem. Any formula would end up eating dust on the corner
  15. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Even the basic hull design they had problem 😅😅 let alone talking about endurance
  16. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I am already giving hints for many Times here, even you all know that, but so what? For sake of argument i would try to entertain the curious cat. The local KCR 60 even can't beat the performance of previous license build of German design FPB 57 meter class from Lursen, even when the MoD already...
  17. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    So far how those had been achieved? Are they are truly indigenous Made in Indonesia and Not some Shady rebranding practices? And how can you be so sure those purchasing is not in order to acquire new capability or some offset to get new technical know how or leeway urgently needed by our Defense...
  18. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    What exactly the goal you mean, i am here all hear☺️☺️
  19. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Two Boats would be build completely in Turkey with all in specification if the contract being awarded before this financial year ended. Wish it can be materialized soon, it is so naive if they think those sub par combat fast boat can be compared to other product overseas, they need a hard SLAP...
  20. Madokafc

    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    There is another option beside the US VLS system (MK41 and Mk48 vls along with the Raytheon Standard Missiles series and ESSM) , Euro Slyver with their Aster series and CAMM Missiles or MICA, there is Ukhomto from South Africa, South Korean K VLS with their K SAM, Russian system (i don't have...

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