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Ok, violation of convention it is, so what? How many conventions eu violate with borders fencing for example, all i say it is puting their nose which does not belong and sadly it pass as legit thing.

So what is the problem? Turkey feels right about this case. About second analogy, no one is is beated, as far as i know, only imprisoned.

Sure, no problem with that, he would be stupid if not use that opportunity given ba entitled high ground from western states. I like to give simple analogies. You have son and you put him in some kind of detention and 10 others peoples from neighbourhood constantly tells you that you violate...

Ok, in other words that is patronizing and you support that? Let me asure there is no country in world especially non western world were you can not find some bizzare and non aligned legal case within international law and within domestic laws also but those embassies does not go around and...

You have one active war in Syria, constant anti terror ops in Iraq, border with iran, tense situation with greece, frenkly it is miracle that you at the end have "normal" economy. Really puzzled how people take one determinating point and disregard plenty of others in mutualy dependent...

You lost me on first sentence :) how it is not?

All this economic aspects of discussion are interstening amd important but politics is not jost that. There is brute fact that you practically have two most probable options Akp plus apendix and CHP/HDP plus apendix. I have a feeling that first pill is easier to swallow for the state and...

probably russian one, so far last couple of weeks it is war lead by Intelligence branches.

2 years are long period, couple of months of full pockets and good presentation will make people to forget all hardships before, it is in human nature, so all those who are not satisfied and incline to the AKP will happily vote again and those are silent majority, no doubt that Erdogan as...

well, if the rants all that is realistic to do, let him rant do not shit on him because of it.

imagine that Turkey diplomats make joint statement with some other countries about prompt release of Julian Asange or complaining about domestic jurisprudence all the time for example?

If Erdogan feel that is in real danger to lose elections he will stick out his son in law or somebody who has similar popularity, either way he will be step ahead of opposition all the time while he does politics. i really do understand frustration of opposition supporters as their option is no...

Desperate measures.

Not really, most of the post was like Erdogan did that, Erdogan screwed something etc., with deflecting of primary questions about strings attached to western money, it is clear as spring water that you can not get both from west, both means reforms monitored by west, money and investments and...

Thank you for this long reply but you did not cover any points i raised, this hole text is huge strawmanning and wishfull thinking. My point that western money comes with political setbacks is strong as rock and if the Turkey is ready to pay that price, i would be fine after all people have free...

Justified move amd showing how truly idenpendent state works. After 2023 mentioned countries could rule the country if people choose that way, all will blossom into flowers when you start implementing one by one requests from embassies.

It is not matter of belief, that is logical conclusion. Lets go back what economy actaully means in modern era, it serves purpose to extend political influence over the world. In that light when new possible goverment step in and try to "normalise" economy they will approach western states...

Fine, in that case say good bye to your geopolitical ambitions, nothing is free.

Ok, for the sake of argument lets say economy is sattered ( which is not), how that would change the almost certain fact that eventual goverment formed by unholy coalitio of chp/hdp/iyi or whoever else, could be able at all to lead coherent economy policy, not mentioning other caotic aspects of...

Wider picture and confirmation of Iranian lunatic mission in Syria.