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    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    What we learned ftom the dawn of WWII- countries alone are vulnerable. Divid et emprea, divide and rule is the tactics well known also for chinese. Nobody will kill Indonesia for being moral and doing right thing, quite the opposite. Again whatsaboutism. For you the glass is always half-empty...
  2. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    I am risking to disappoint my opponent, but the world is not spinning around Türkiye. Sweden and Finland are peaceful countries, perhaps too eager to support deomocary and accepting wrong immigrants. Be careful with Germany. It took six years from Hitler to bring this country out from the...
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    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    I admire Gary for hes non-compromises and swiftly ignoring tough questions. Of course West has sins to salvage, but this attitude goes way back before WWII and was then overwhelming. Nobody knows this better than Estonians, but how much I try- I cannot make it unhappen. Yes, the hated...
  4. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    I have only one question hereby: is this right?
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    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    There is a good saying: hate the game, not the players. There are winners and loosers in any game, as long the game is based on "zero sum": someone has to loose in order to others could win. Yet there is another game mode, called "win-win". This mode does not give you the gains compared to first...
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    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    We are getting way beyond the theme of this forum thread. Wikipedia is also not the best source for such dispute. Can you or moderator point the better place for UN related discussion?
  7. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Hmm, the first lines from that link are following: "On 19 March 2011, a multi-state NATO-led coalition began a military intervention in Libya, to implement United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, in response to events during the First Libyan Civil War. With ten votes in favour and five...
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    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    On the contrary, you should ask for it. Ask for better international order, ask for better quarantees for small countries. We will back you, because we are small countries like Bangladesh. Unity is the key here, despite what you are expressing. UN is the organisation which we can address such...
  9. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Ukrainians got that, tried to change that and got attacked.They learned their lesson, bit late though, but got it right- try to get into some club that respects your values and your country will become safer. Different math, like you said it. Why does Indonesia want to be alone in this non-ideal...
  10. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    That is one possible but clearly inclined point of view. Agree with the first point, only lightly with the second one. Europe does carry sins because of colonisation policy they carried out for big part of the last millenia, thus dividing people into better ones (colonisers) and not so good ones...
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    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    To be honest, only US posesses an ability to transfer their military power globally. In this sense Europe is conveniently sitting in a back seat and leave the hard work for Americans. Why Americans are willing to support Europe- US tried twice not to get involved with evolving world wars and...
  12. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Indeed, but one has to take the broader view hereby. Up to 90-s there was existencial struggle between two ideologies, between wannabe communists and pragmatic capitalists. This was backed up with real weapons of mass-destruction, which are used also in modern disputes. I saw this from inside...
  13. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Please. All the sudden Europe is quilty of all the sins happening since te end of Ice Age and US is some sort of home of supervillans, hideously and secretly directing Russia to chaos? I would personally love to live in such world, where Europe has a guts and means to protect Bangladesh from...
  14. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Wow, guys! Hold your horses. First of all, Türkyie is NATO member and one of the latest triggerers of NATO treaty paragraph 4 in 2021, when Turkish soldiers were killed in an attack from Syria. It is a stretch to position Türkyie outside of this system or somehow confront it. Only who wins...
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    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Well, hereby one cooling down opinion from historian Timothy Snyder regarding differences Ukraine war and US role in it. Timothy Snyder is a professor of history at Yale University. He is the author of The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America.
  16. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    I see it clearly now: our world is managed by dark forces through hideous conspiracy, reaching out from the depths of hell and strangling good people of Earth! Nothing but hidden wisdom of some notorius forum members can save us from the doom. The rest of us, we have been utterly naive and...
  17. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Ha, we are getting on the bottom of things. Sort of, within the limits of opponents, of course. I appreciate this and would love others to join. Ru- Uk war is dictationg the dilemma, but lets not be limited with that and Türkiye is offering interesting alternative indeed. So, Russian superior...
  18. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Mmm... not exactly what I was asking about, but OK. Butthurt belters, huh? I agree. Russophobia has dark origins and Ukrainians men, women and children feel it for real now. Thing is, this violence turns against Russians themselves. I had a chance to compare USSR (basically Russian) and Swedish...
  19. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    And I still cannot get it. blackjack claims to live in USA. The very worst enemy against motherland Russia. Supplier of the most lethal weapons for Ukraine, the very reason behind thousands of killed Russian soldiers. Stronghold for globohomo, LGTB and whatever movements. The worst country...
  20. M

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Point being, Russia demodernizing its army, Ukrainians modernising.Two different vectors of movement, hereby Ukraine still gets one generation older weaponry in relatively small amoiunts and still doing pretty well. So this vector has great room for advancing- if Western countries get scared...

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