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That is because it is not finished yet, it misses all kinds of sensors, protusions etc. that with production models will be added. Compare it to a woman without makeup, with makeup she will look stunning!

Well the demonstrator is like the name says to demonstrate it is flyable. One can make all types of tests with weights added that represent radar, missiles etc. A demonstrator is not a production ripe aircraft that can be used by the airforce. So yes there can be changes on the frame if needed.

Sure temporary until blk10

No I do not think so. Blk 0 is a demonstrator, same like Baykar uses the kizilelma demonstrator prototype. Landing gears on demonstrators are not the main point and are often fixed, to avoid accidents on that part. The Blk 10 will become the first production ready prototype

When planes are put next together one suddenly recognizes the differences. TFx blk 0 has apparently no retractable aft wheels (we saw this also with drone prototypes)

interesting, at the 3rd second something like a flare is exploding . It looks indeed like a helicopter used for special operations if it carries flares

Most likely not, the hangar rollout was postponed to April

Turkish people are really strange when it comes to politics. Most of us are as fanatic as if they support their football team. Whenever I like something, or praise for instance our defense industry there comes a dude and accuses me of being a covert AKP supporter. When I make remarks about how...

Well you know the EF is not only dealing with England, just saying.

True, but we could make it more up to date with Turkish avionics, radar etc. I mean as thought we should be open for this. US kicked us out of the F35 program, is everything but clear on the sale of F16. I did not make a study out of it and am just dropping the idea of JF-17 as discussion...

Guys something else, suppose the US declines F16 sale how do you guys regard the Pakistani JF17? A "Turkified" version of JF-17, with Aselsan radar, Aselpod, Ozgur mission computer, avionics, communications, self protection system and of course Turkish missiles and bombs? Kinda like empty...

Yeah but there is difference between wanting and openly revolting with fire weapons. The moment you revolt with weapons against the state you are terrorist!!!

Politics in Turkiye have become soo ugly. Parties don't even shy away from straight treasonous acts for votes, simply sad!

Even if only the block 30's than still there is no satisfactory reason given by SSB why all these delay occurs. Even upgrade of blk 30 will take 1-2 years, why it is taking this long to start Ozgur integration is beyond me

Catching up with technology is easier. Not that we can be frontrunners in tech (also this is economy and population mass related), but todays interconnection, internet, international education possibilities makes catching up with technology easier.

Catcing up with US or China is out of question. China is 1.5bln people US is 52 states (each richer than Turkiye) with 350mln people There is no way that we can catch up with our current economy. We ain't trying to match up with US or China, we try to be the dominating power in our neighborhood

Non of them are a match for Turkiye. We should stop thinking in short terms with stopgaps. Put full power into development of Hurjet, Kizilelma, ANKA-3, TFx, this is the way! I don't really get why the Ozgur upgrade is this much delayed, money should be poured into this instead of chasing the...

The relation is we rather get ourselves occupied with unimportant futile things, get ourselves detached from realities

45k deaths from earthquakes and look where we Turks make fuss about. We really deserve it all

That is typical in developing countries like Turkiye. Status, high farts. I worked in companies like Erikson, where the CEO washed his own cups. So what, does it make him less? IMHO he got a lot more respect because he was not a guy full of air