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The difference being that the Altay was a finished project in 2016 when mass production would start but it didnt,instead the ''tender'' was given to BMC a newcomer with no experience at all. The T925 is just a mockup,not even one working helicopter. How can you compare these projects?

Wow,after fucking 15 years three will be delivered in 2025. What an achievement!!!

In 1987, Turkey received 40 F-4E Phantoms under the Peace Diamond V project, which primarily equipped the 131 Filo 'Ejder' (Dragon) and 132 Filo 'Hançer' (Dagger) squadrons at the 3rd Main Jet Base Command in Konya. These aircraft replaced older F-100 Super Sabres, transitioning the Konya wing...

They all are but nobody cares,there is no more honour. Its all about money with these mofos.

It all depends on the first game but it looks doable. Ajax an Union are easy 6 points. Bodo 50/50(3 points or 0) City 1 point Frankfurt is a ''home'' game,could be another win. And a surprise win against Liverpool first game. 😁 😁 😁

They need to stop buying ''retired'' and worthless players from abroad instead build a team with the own youth. Goes for all Turkish football teams.

Yeah Karabag and Kairat qualified but damn Fenerbahce couldnt.😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬 We lost ranking points again,as usual. Besiktas was worse.🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡

The UK couldd go for it alone if it wanted but this is about finances. Inviting Japan is the problem i think,its like France with its complicated demands. This project needs better partners.

That is not enough to make an announcement. It has to be some new system or achievement,more important news.

Doubt it,what news could there be about it?

What's with the defeatist attitude?

They furthered the design from the Hürjets original design. ''SNC’s proposed twin-engine, two-seat aircraft, called the “Freedom Trainer,” draws from a design the company pioneered years ago with Turkish Aerospace Industries, a company official told Breaking Defense today. SNC in the time since...

Looks like you guys are right but it is weird though. The core design and the name.

Then who are our friends,name them?

Damascus was not won,Assad left because the Russians didnt support him anymore an Hezbollah was destroyed by Israel. So,your Islamists just took over a country without fighting,there was none to fight. Tehran was a ''revolution'',people were fed up with the Pehlavi dynasty thought Khomeini was...

What do you personally think about this?

Thats the thing with Trump,he doesnt care. Jewish,Greek and Armenian have to get in line. If he wants something done,it has to be done or else. He did in 10 years what took Erdogan 40 years,total control of the US leadership establishment. Just take a look at our country and compare it to what...

Like he did with the ''Big Beautiful Bill'' where 8/10 Republican members were against it at first? What or who changed their minds? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/3/trump-rages-as-rebel-house-republicans-baulk-at-backing-big-beautiful-bill

In this case CAATSA means nothing,Trump decides and if he decides Erdogan(his buddy) gets what he wants he gets what he wants. Trump ''owns'' every decision making platform in the US. So,if we dont get what we want,its Trumps fault. Its that simple i guess.:unsure::unsure::unsure: