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I meant on huge m61 sabra/aselsan packs fleet, even modernized they are weak mbt nower days, it is reasonable to asume that they will be first replaced with Altay. So, question remains.

What is annual plan of production once all is set up and what is the future of existing tanks that they are absolute?

I differ to disagree, if pakistani air force does not complain about motor performance then it should be fine. You need to consider that licenced production is same like original one under spedifications, materials amd procedures. I agree with you if it is copied motor but i think russians sold...

I think that china has licence for that engine, somebody correct me if i am wrong?

Your best post written on this forum.

No isusse with that, just with silly comparations.

It meams either that you are near the solution domesticaly solved or that someome is placing disinformation deliberately about current status of it, dont see other logic in these negotiation, if the news are true

Sure, like there is no need for security protocols in turkey and officials can go carelessly on their bykes to their officies. If you would like to be like holland and make comparato, eradicate islam, give full lgbt rights, give kurds all they ask, legalize prostitution and drugs, invent some...

i appreciate your balanced angle, i truly think that your country faces so many challenges on so many levels domestically and abroad that this palace thing is minor and irrelevant issue and only used as convinient tool for achieving some cheap political points. at least this forum community...

i did say that and firmly stand beside that statement, sorry state that had 5 military coups in couple of decades can not be described other then that. beside that compare your influence in the world at time with today projection and good vibes around the globe. bright moments in past like...

i did not shut because of what you said, i just appreciate more some objective achievements in last 20 years and have some confidence that other problems present will be solved gradually without needless drama.

if pointing our mere facts, yes i am insulting Turkish Republic, but i think that i am not.

no, you are not, you are in lets say in 16 finals of world championship, you still have some games to play. thing is that people have tendencies to project their own life rush on state bussiness, it does not work that way.

lets be honest, before akp you were banana state, that is undisputable fact. what you will be after akp only God knows.

oh yes, you did have, all on display in washington on button switch :)

all chill bro, those are not first and probably not last shit smearing posts on your current president and you get proper reaction as that points are weak for anyone who follow politics from some wider angles

guess who initiated changing that fact, man in the palace 😅, guys contextualize thing for once pls.

You did not get it, just wanted to ilustrate that couple of villas built by erdgoan are jokes in comparation with his projects..., i will not comment anymore on this and would like to avoid being seen as someone who is unapologetic supporter of erdogan, at the end he is your president not mine :)

If you only knew what Josip Broz Tito built for himself in much poorer state them turkey is today, you would consider Erdogan as modest and humble person., to much fuss about irrelevant thing for ordinary citizen, like he will take it with him once when he steps out.

No, whataboutism at its best is on dislplay :)