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  1. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Double the navy budget first then we could talk about sejong's class type destroyer acquisition and maintenance ... else , nothing but a wet dreams in my book . I'm a realist with a pessimistic leaning attitude .... ☕☕☕
  2. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Ahh ... The legendary 80 mil no uno captain & defender I can barely watch him ... To borrow my oldest son quote's ... g semua bule itu pinter ternyata ya yah ... And he is 14 ... 😂😂
  3. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    As far i know while chief of staf and the marines eager for a newer article . There is litle response from the MoD side ... While we never say no to a working freebies . Maybe 08 try to kill two bird with 1 stone with the new FNSS+Pindad deal ... Who know ...not to mention BAE did own some share...
  4. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Grants not purchases . Please differentiate that , fellaz ...
  5. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    155 mm weren't on the table as yet .
  6. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Imagine this layman scenario .. 280 km were the standard nominal range for the established ( future ) enemy forward bases after the front line forces get slaughtered with the initial suprises . Swarm them with cheap drones and hamas class rocketry as a diversion .... Every ( future ) enemy...
  7. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Every miles of long journey were started by a measly step ... Yet , it was the hardest effort to be ... Nuff said
  8. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Bakso tetaplah bakso walau dengan rasa yg beraneka ragam dan harga yang bervariasi dr paket sultan hingga Pahe ...
  9. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    In case you haven't noticed as yet ... Wellcome to the democracy . Everybody was free to expressing their opinions and ideas within the boundary of law ... And truthfully ... When BAIS and BIA was in some of form or another were still under his supervision . Then we have to put some merit in...
  10. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Without an amandement ..... All of these 3rd periode throws away are all nothing but a hot air/distraction from the core issues ..... Yet , some peoples are still baited all along regardless the experiences
  11. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    That is the price we have to pay after years of neglect and economic hardships . Well , atleast we are acknowledging it and try to remedying it as best as we can even with all of these challenges be it geopolitic or financial leeway provided/created .
  12. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    They should be considering it seriously . It's just ... I don't know . Do we ever have enough money to purchase it . Between numbers and " accesories " . We all knows where our limited money would eventually go anyway ... I'm a pessimist afterall ...
  13. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Khusus untuk Georgia ... Clubbed to near death experience to be excat. Yemen & syria ... Trampled over Taiwan .... ..... .... ...
  14. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Ente terlalu cepat ambil kesimpulan ... Coba lihat ke depan setelah dagelan ini selesai . Apa relevansi Nato selain lawan China ?? Do the europeans even dare to think of that ? Yg pasti paska perang ini rusia yg kismin tapi nafsu gede hanya punya dua lifeline .... China dan turkic countries (...
  15. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Setelah dagelan ini .... Pintu masuk F35 akan terbuka lebar . Jika tidak juga ?? Maka Nato akan bubar dngn sendiri nya secara pelan2 . Turki akan tetap join Nato tapi dia akan terus main dua sisi . Instabilisasi dr dalam tp dengan higher moral ground . Pelajaran yg harus kita di ambil di...
  16. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Di mata ane the real winner di konflik ini adalah Turki/Erdogan . Mereka " Neutral " sambil jualan TB2 ,EW dan amunisi ( sigint gathering ) sekaligus jd calo untuk produk rusia di black market .... Bebas - aktif dalam arti yg sesungguhnya .....😂
  17. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Too litle too late ... Dan terlalu beresiko jika sorti bukan dr ruang udara ukrania sendiri .
  18. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Blm dengar soal yg itu sih ... Yup , menurut beberapa sumber Iskander adalah opening menu dlm konflik ini . Menurut beberapa sumber ... Korban sdh 5200+ and counting ... Di saat threeshold sudah terlampaui maka rusia pasti akan bereaksi keras .... Dan lingkaran setan akan di mulai .. Ini...
  19. Ravager

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Kita bicara ttg rusia di sini ... Sdh tradisi mereka jika " mentok " . Mereka pakai their " true and tested " tactic . Jika mereka pakai taktik ini di ukraina sekarang mereka akan menang dengan lebih cepat tp bogged down so hard and bitter yang akan membuat apa yg di rasakan US dkk di afganistan...

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