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  1. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    From the Geopolitical consideration thing . The US were highly benefitted from equipped us with the F 15 EX . We would be the first credible " Tester " for any of future " mainland VS anyone " conflict . Unlike Japan and Sokor we are not bound with any of their geographical nor cultural...
  2. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Oh boy .... There is no end with those hypocrites i guess . While sometime i do commend on their enthusiastic ideas but too much of idealism will keep them from the harsh reality and make them bouncing forever in la la land .... 😂
  3. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    I guess complaining about our Qurban abbatoir process were too much tame for their taste nowadays 😎
  4. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    And that is why i'm not put much of my stock on these fighters . Almost all the money we could spare are prioritized for the navy striking force by now . The rest .... You just have to make by with what was left of it ...
  5. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Litbang was allready doing it for the 81 mm i guess 120 mm was already in the drawing board by now . But the biggest question since forever is .... Di tuku ora son ?? Wis cape2 nggawe meh ora di sawang2 ... Diancuk !! 😘😘
  6. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    All i could say is F 15 EX was the next best thing in 4+ Gen fighter before F 35 & F 22 . Even Rafale F4 was below them in overal capabilities in my book . I might bit biased in this but the russan version of SU 57 were in 5 G league while i'm not educated enough to make a comment on Chinese...
  7. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    There is a difference allright and i never had a doubt about prabowo . Liked or not the man has the " Cojone " for backing his words to a T . but we are simply too low in the rung ladder here . No new information as yet so just stay to the basic for a safe precaution .
  8. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    I wish i could be as optimistic as you do here . But , i simply couldn't . While we are still have some leeway for a finance we are start to strapping for a cash fast . How much do you think our gov has spent for the vaccines allready ?? If it was a normal time then i would agree with you in...
  9. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    The way i see it all of those unused allocated SU 35 budget get swapped for either Rafale F4/3 or F 15 ...
  10. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    My hope is we could licensed the said weapon to produced in house . Manpads and AT weapon was an essential item in our Total defense doctrines . It's not perfect but it was a start nonetheless
  11. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    1.6 for the " interceptor " was the allready aproved sum . We haven't heard a new number . Basically is this .... While finance minister provide the funding taman suropati was doing a more comprehensive calculation and whole a lot other issue to cater the said plan added cost and benefit which...
  12. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    To be honest without a decent air defense coverage and robust C4R all of our hot high end stuffs were put in the very delicate and worrying position . And so yes i think before we make a concrete step to remedy our core problem any new high end item acquisition were redundant . No body was eager...
  13. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Yup , another classic indonesian baiting tactic . Just pit the vendor among themselves and the real pricing deal soon would be revealed and then get the contract ready to be processed Remember ... Taman suropati only allocated $ 1,6 for these and i haven't heard another added number as yet
  14. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Who we will send them to fight for then ?? If we couldn't even guaranteed them safely delivered in the transportation process ?? Unnecessary loses of material and personel for the sake of vanity . Not to mention their preferences on " eastern " product that only makes thing harder during the...
  15. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Simple answer ... Low budget priority on Harwat as mentality problems . And nope , those information only provided as internal consumption and read only information basis .
  16. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Well , who knows ?? Maybe it's the same suplier after all ... I've long stopped to track who is suplying who nowadays .
  17. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Well , i might did biased in this but you do have too agree to an extent that the russian are excerbated the problem for their reluctance providing the neccesary tech/knowledge on their engine maintenance system in house . Unlike their western counterpart engines we allready have a systematic...
  18. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Nope , i'm not going delve in that labyrinth of possibilities . Seeing is believing . I'm not interested in discussing what could have and ifs . Until they are come and running then i would participate some more . And nope we still have the financial capability to cover a double of all of those...
  19. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Rather than commenting on high end stuff i was rather more pleased to hear on our supposedly added firepower for the grunts . Stingers and 120 mm mortar for the company level support and recoilles for the platoon level . That is an awesome added fire power capabilities ...
  20. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    OH ... Just for a reminder.... Try to differentiate the code between EX , exs and ID for some time . Because to be honest ... I doubt even the speaker himself realized or aware to emphasize or articulating the code differences for the audience's sake during his fiery speeches at that moment ...

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