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This is very sad news, we ended up begging for F16 after losing F35, and now Greece is getting 40 F35 and we getting F16s. To me 40F35 is worth more than 300 F16... and this news increases the urgency of KAAN, it doesn't reduce it. I bet they are having a good laugh at how they scammed us. Plus...

Turkey was founded after a fractured Ottoman Empire with lessons learned therein shaping its establishment.

Moskva was a 10000 tonne cruiser with land attack duty, a 3000 tonnes frigate with 16 antiship missiles on angled launchers is disproportionate. There are of course ships with a many vls that can you can put a variety of things in. Honestly, maybe Istif with 32 vls + 8 Atmaca would be more optimal

Yeah 16 missiles per ship is our thing, its a bit unusual. We are gonna have 8 Istif + 4 meko with 16 each.

See the disingenious part here is that, didn't they know about those procedures when expecting it to fly in December and making people expect it?

With 9 kW total energy, it's likely more a SAR radar

I think it would be possible to build a drone in tactical class that is small and stealthy, but even that would have difficulty achieving WVR opportunity kill. Plus modern fighters have lots of passive sensors. But we don't even know id TB3 can be considered stealthy. It might just catch some...

TB3s with 2 Bozdoğan can shoot down a few cruise missiles at least I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Remember when we were talking about our 1.4 Billion for F35 back? This is lockheed asking for its F35 losses basically. A silver lining would be if they allow us to produce the F16 and F110 here.

There were talks about them wanting a ship like TCG Anadolu from Spain and us

I think it was a reaction to events that occured in coup attempt basically. F16s pursuing presidents plane etc. But it's speculation.

I think it was a reaction to a certain major event.

Most countries are already retiring their Phantoms and Tornados, we were going to do so with F35 but here we are

Why would countries that already own 5th gen and are developing 6th gen be really interested in KAAN? But maybe since 6th gen is far away they want a twin engine alternative to F35? Eh don't think so. I certainly wish Italy and Japan would partner with us though.

Dang, mad man are actually doing an arsenal ship.

It's a waste of quality manpower. You know how people complain when we do fason and kaportacılık and not enough yerli ve milli, that's the software equivalent. But well If you can't provide jobs that produce high value added software and end user products... We need to focus on creating...

If they are illegal you can report to 170 and they will pay them a visit.

I searched for PT6 for a good while but couldn't find. Yet 18kW on Aksungur is quite high. F16 is 60 kVA, so what could PT6 be?

Aksungur is being tested with PT170 rn which will increase its total electrical energy significantly though I don't know which engine previous versions used. You can expect more useful electronic payloads after that.

Well I mean Istanbul is not the only place he may have been though why compare other small city with Amsterdam