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That's not an excuse.

Fish have streamlined body to reduce drag. They're inspiration for the whole aviation industry. Look at airfoil of a wing or a propeller and you would see.

Not to be pedantic but could you use fewer exclamation marks in your posts? It has the opposite effect what you might be hoping for. It makes your response look more of an angry rant than a quality counter-argument. I'm afraid some of the users of this forum has this trait and makes me not want...

That number includes AKINCI engines too. And as far as I know it's speculation. Contingent on the success of TF-6000, TEI should get the bulk of the orders not Ivchenko-Progress, imo.

All these developments, these threats are good for us in the long term. The strength comes from within. We design, build and perfect our own products. Our own software runs on them. We make billions on them. We can shape our domestic and foreign policy to our like. However, you have to admit...

If we don't succeed with our national AESA radar, we won't have much chance to lock on them. And if, God Forbid, they acquire F35s before we have operational KIZILELMAs or TFXs then our air force will be completely at the mercy of Greek pilots. The airworthiness of our F16 fleet in Aegean would...

Could you elaborate a bit? What is copy of what?

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. The fact is we had our F35s ready for delivery and the imprudence of the government cost us to loose a very strategic asset(not even counting the worsening image and economic repercussions ). Furthermore, we were a supplier of...

What problems is he talking about?

Then why are we still pursuing it, especially after the stunt they pulled with the nuclear power station? What can we gain with these systems when our SAM projects are already in full-swing? Do Russians have some leverage on us that we don't know about? Or are we caught up on Stockholm syndrome...

The S-400 deal must be the dumbest defense procurement we have ever made. It cost us so much and we gained virtually nothing from it, zilch. The country who is famous for destroying Russian SAM systems is paying huge amounts of money to buy them. Fate loves irony, indeed.

I would give more than three years to the Aesa(an operational Aesa). Aselsan is in an uncharted territory whereas TEI has all the experience and the infrastructure on engines. TEI can accomplish the task without any dependency from abroad but I can't say the same about Aselsan. At least, not...

I know it's counter-intuitive but I feel like TF-6000 will be ready before AESA radar.

He hinted that restrictive measures are underway to keep them in the country.

I'm afraid the exodus of defence-sector engineers leaving the country might snowball after Ismail Demir's comments about it last night.

It's not about being doom and gloom. I don't care if they'll fly it before the year's end or three months later and what not. As long as I see a veritable progress, I'm good. And I'm pretty content with TAI's rate of progress so far. The problem was Mete Yarar's constantly hyping his program...

There's no way they can fly this before the year is out. Just my two cents.

A drop in the bucket. For to supply Turkey with those ships, 1000 of them,fully loaded, must arrive to Turkey every day.

Which school are you from?

There are 600 Turkish engineers working for ASML. Wow :oops: didn't know that.