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You should also look at cancelled NATF and FB22 concept

Thrust to weight ratio is one thing but you also need to consider wing area and stall speed, as well as the overall drag coefficient. 5th gen fighters are thick boys.

I mean lighter than Kaan

France puts D on them, calls them frigates and classifies them as destroyers.

We use common standards with europe on that usually. You will notice most of EU does not call their AAW ships destroyers but frigates. It doesn't mean much though, they can have tonnage and roles same as a destroyer. Although when TF2000 was started being called a destroyer when design tonnage...

Kuznetsov and the copies etc. Are being used with migs and India is testing Rafale and F18. However afaik their payload is limited. Naval KAAN is too far fetched, even US Navy cancelled F22 naval variant. This is better for drones, Hürjet and maybe a lighter aircraft. Big jets just require...

The front ramp and sides need a bit more consideration. Could put some elevators around.

That mast looks absolutely loaded

And terrible agriculture policy

I doubt europe could anymore. Maybe US?

This is a bit of mismanagement, TAI went too quickly to make things work when faced with embargoes and difficulties, instead of taking a step back and rethinking priorities, they went ahead and tried to rush with any solution they found. So just when we thought we found the engine war happens...

Ok I was trying to understand the point you were trying to make, didn't quite get it I guess

It is just speculation, not something concrete I should clarify

Is that why Gürcan Okumuş left? I'd heard he resisted giving away some munition to another company after working so hard for it

Is a civilian company with no experience of building military radars building the radar for a destroyer? You guys should hope they get consultancy or partnership from some other

I mean I'm sure they would want 5th gen fighters after war has settled down in 10 years providing they have an economy, with help from west. They probably wouldn't be able to get F35, but if they were industrial partners with KAAN they could maybe get some.

Maybe we are integrating SIPER into this system, and some manufacturing partnership? There were some talks about acquiring Patriot PAC 3 MSE for ballistic threats.

Seems I was about right: a mass satellite killer?

Correct I should have said megatons. Nanogram is that divided by 10^9. That makes CERN production about a kilograms of tnt equivalent a year or less.

Cern produces less than a nanogram a year. 1kg matter to energy is 21.5 kilotons of TNT equivalent.