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  1. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada SSK program

    I read some more and i have some more thoughts on this in consideration of the German TKMS Type 212CD being on the short list of contenders for a future Canadian class of submarine. More specifically, I've been reading on the differences between the German HDW 216 submarine design and the...
  2. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada SSK program

    Have any HDW Type-216's been built ? Am i correct that this is just a concept design? ... If concept, I suspect there is an inherent risk for Canada to followup. i suspect the price for 12 submarines will be expensive as it is ... and adding the risk for development costs could make such a...
  3. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada SSK program

    This is an old thread, but there is recent news. A Canadian government announcement: Government of Canada advances to next step in Canadian Patrol Submarine Project procurement dated 26-Aug-2025 And an extract from that article: ... As near as I can read, there was no announced change in...
  4. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    From an 8-August-2025 US Department of Defence notice of contract awards: https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/4270261/ Lockheed Martin, Rotary and Mission Systems, Moorestown, New Jersey, is awarded a $18,601,447 cost-plus-incentive-fee and cost type modification to a...
  5. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I believe the Canadian Navy, and indeed the River Class Prime contractor, will be taking a close look as to how this Halifax Class program UAV unfolds ... assuming of course that commercial interests do not get in the way of applying lessons from the Halfax class frigate UAV to the River Class...
  6. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Yes that was an interesting read. I found the part about "an easy upgrade path" from S-100 to S-300 of one of the very interesting aspects also. With the larger size of the S-300 over the S-100 comes some real benefits (24 hours of endurance would be amazing). Further some more capable...
  7. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    What I managed to find was this PDF press release of schiebel (dated Dec-2024). https://schiebel.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/ In that press release it notes Schiebel Camcopter S-100 successfully demonstrated an MDA Space radar during a one week trial at the Foremost UAS Test Range in Western...
  8. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Further to this topic of drones for the Halifax class (where I believe the same drones could end up being used on the River Class destroyers), when searching on this topic I stumbled across this article: BREAKING: The Government of Canada announces MDA and the S-100 for the Royal Canadian Navys...
  9. oldcpu

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  10. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Some pure speculation by me on this ... as its not clear to me whether MDA has a favourite supplier and/or if MDA has chosen the UAV supplier I believe several sources (about the contract) mentioned that these are "Class-2" UAS platforms. From the internet I read: Class-1: Very...
  11. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    On this topic of possible drones to be embarked on the new River Class destroyer, and the contenders for the RCNs next generation UAVs, I note this recent Canadian Defence Review article (dated 6-August-2025) on drones for the Halifax class frigate...
  12. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    More on the prospect of using unmanned aerial vehicles via/with the River Class destroyer, considering the feasibility (which I suspect the Canadian Navy is doing) which I assume may then influence how they structure/configure the destroyer. So I finally got around to reading a small amount...
  13. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Thankyou. That is interesting. From that Canadian defense review link I note: and further I note: I am trying to read into that 'requirement' summary that I quoted. When it stated " ... minimize the risk to ... maritime helicopter .. " that suggests to me the drone will be able to do some...
  14. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    As noted, I believe the MQ-9B Sea Guardian is too large for a warship such a the River Class Destroyer. I surfed the internet a bit more on UAV use with sonobuoys, particularly the relay of raw sonobuoy signals to a warship via UAV. While reviewing press releases on the Canadian military...
  15. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I’m curious what Remotely Piloted Aircraft System (RPAS) or Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) might be planned for embarkation aboard Canada’s upcoming River Class destroyers. To date, I haven’t come across any detailed public documentation outlining specific UAV requirements or platform selections...
  16. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Unofficial research suggests at least a dozen countries have procurred the MASS Omnitrap passive IR and RF decoy launchers for some of their warships, which in that list includes Canada for the Halifax class frigate. So Canada has peacetime experience with this naval self-defense system, so...
  17. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    Further to the above, on the topic of Electronic Counter Measures, I am also pondering with the deletion of Raven ECM, what if anything (besides the very expensive expendable Nulka) is Canada planning for active ELECTRONIC defense for the Type-26 River Class? As noted elsewhere in this thread...
  18. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    I am a big believer in the need of effective Electronic Warfare to improve a warship's chance of survival at sea. I was comparing the Australian Type-26 (Hunter class) to the Canadian Type-26 (River class) and noted for: (1) Australia : 3 x MASS Omnitrop, 4 x quad Nulka active RF decoy...
  19. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    When searching for information on Aegis AN/SPY-7 implementations, I stumbled across an old article on the planned Japanese AN/SPY-7 procurement, where with my updated knowledge I am reconsidering it in a 'new light'. It provides some of the history of the tribulations of the Japanese AN/SPY-7...
  20. oldcpu

    Canada Navy Canada Surface Combatant (CSC) Program

    On this C2BMC (Command and Control, Battle Management, and Communications) topic, it had me thinking about Communications for the River Class Destroyer. I note C2BMC requires SATCOM for the Aegis equipped warship to participate in C2BMC. I read back in May last year that L3Harris are to...

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