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  1. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    No , we would have to honored the allready written deal . Albeit with a such heavy reluctance and old ladies grumbling in between . It's about honour and reputation ... yet it would tarnish both our long nurtured and cerished relationship in the long run ... Sigh ..
  2. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    God damn ... AH was on the roll with this one . It seem HDW was giving them a very big pressure and dangling a big carrot to fish us out in this deal ... Make no mistakes.... While CBG ( the last contract ever between us and DSME !! ) was a done deal in my book . It's the following class that...
  3. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Blasphemy !! How could you be so unpatriotic and ke barat-baratan ??? And you called your self as an Indonesian ?? 🚴🚴🚴🚴
  4. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Err .... when and where else they could had a chance to brag for sticking those laser printed sticker as big as they could ?? And here i thought that you've allready learnt a lot from these past months of mado's and the rest of oldies ( me not included !! ) generous closed door's...
  5. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Plans and aspirations could always change and adjust to the situation . While i wholeheadtedly supporting on bulk purchase . It would be better if we spread the version around . Compared to the pure " Banpur " 105 mm /120 mm . 40-35 mm were more versatile and effective to rain the lead and...
  6. Ravager

    Swift Taliban takeover leaves U.S. image in tatters

    OK .... I'll bite this .... So , in my understanding you chinese could do a better job in " pacifying " Afganistan should the need is arose ?? Is that what you were saying here ??
  7. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Common sense dictates us to revitalized our equipment first . Not to mention we allready had a dozen type of camos ( Samar , NKRI etc , etc ) yet it was never implemented for the above reasoning . Onething i could never understand is the wearest our DPM's get , it was get more and more blended...
  8. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Wani piro ?? .... Compared to the mere uniform ( with a litle kickback in it ) . Modernization and revitalisation equipment were the priority and rage today .
  9. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Didn't i said it before ?? He is fishing for information and the reaction for pitching his platform . Liked or not ... This forum was part of the sales batleground be it formally or non informally . Information was always the key after all ... And for god sake @trishna_amrta enough with your...
  10. Ravager

    News No Cold War? Chip War in Search of World Dominance Between US-China & Why The World Need Taiwan

    The moment mainland get their Chip's independence . That was the day we had to enter the underground bunkers and worrying about the real nuclear fallout in actuality .
  11. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Well , somebody at the fishing mode all over again .
  12. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Well , i have to beg a differ here ... During these exercise we should impose the highest " test stressing " to our bois so they build up their stress tolerance on a higher level . Provide should the real deal enviromnent were prohibiting for wearing a double layered vest armor . That extra...
  13. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    too bad . Full geared/vest on wasn't strictly enforced in this exercise ... We have to do an acclimation somehow because the clock are ticking
  14. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Remember my last rants about Euro's reluctance for suplying with a familiar components that masseur/penjaga kantin/sales been tweeted about ?? On how much the guys here are salted about them too .... ?? Like i said before .... He is testing the water ... This quote were allready explaining...
  15. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Until our old hercs fleet all get turned into the J series . Your hope won't get fullfilled soon .... Don't know about A400 tho' ...
  16. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Sometime things are escalated not in the media main channel I only believe it when i see it ....
  17. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Yup ... Too much hassle . But , man still can dream no ... 😂😂 China would only grow larger . Sooner or later those ridiculous norms are going to be broken and twisted when shits are starting to get real ... Don't buy that bullshit and hypes . Action speak louder than words . Unless they...
  18. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Honestly , i beg to differ on some of your point . While i do agree that relying on a sole suplier was beyond ridiculous . There is still a big merits when it come to a standarized consumable items . A compromising approach would be for an every item listed we are sourcing them from a 3 reliable...
  19. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    A wise man once said something and then get quoted repeatedly .... " Words and pledges are dead while mans are living " And " the victors/living who were always writing the history books " and " you could only speak your voice when you in possesion of strength !! Take that as you will ...

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