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the benefit of collective leadership under communist party..

misi tempur pesawat stealth ya ga bisa dilepaskan dari penggunaan AWACS secara efektif, yg mutlak dari pesawat gen 5 ya element of surprisenya itu, dan inget lo ya.. pespur gen 5 juga punya IRST

blue navy projection doesn't mean you have to operate and stay for long time overseas, what happen to sinar kudus with its military operations, describe the typical blue navy projections we need. plus with indonesia as archipelagic country we need navy striking force with huge amounts of fire...

damen don't gave us right to produce n sell the ship to other countries..

compare to what mado says for fregat merah putih, with mor complex hull arround 278 million US...damen products for indo all of them FWBNW..plus no flexibility like korean LPDs

expensive, and the most important think, you want the succes story from korean LPD repeated for damen products, and you can't do it.

Damen? nope, to many drama for 104 dan 90

do Do you have Harimau when doing dyaminc firing test, i never saw harimau doing that kind of firing test..

it was dynamic firing test for booker, it seem normal.

indonesia belum perlu jadi blue navy.. lebih penting, jejelin semua ALKI dan pulau pulau strategis dengan landbase AShM, radar, SAM system, sekalian SOSUS, lebih butuh Guided rocket system juga dalam jumlah banyak, bisa jadi area access denial system yg murah, we must protect our choke point...

siluman teu datang datang, ka iran nu jelas jelas mayar DP ge teu dikirim :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

ane mah ogah masuk platform X atau debat ginian di efbeh juga...

91 mio vs 30 mio.. if the expensive one win, well, mado should make "nazar traktir kita kita 7x 24 jam", positif nazar rather than Hanyna did with Eagle :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

sisa ambon banyak seliweran kok...

buset, khomeini sama karl max, emg beda partai satu ini :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

dari dulu juga murah sih klo belgia phased out alutsistanya, yg sph ratusan unit dulu pas phased outnya cuma dihargai 1,75 juta dollar ke perusahaan swasta.

oh iya, org sektor alutsista mah mending nunggu godot dari vendor deng dibanding repot repot ngajuin anggaran pengembangan dan debat sama org bapenas atau kemenkeu..

dar i awal, elang hitam itu mentok sampe airframe, sisanya ngembangin sendiri ga ada modal..

hom home insudtri, bengkel basement :D owen gunnya letkol soerhato lebih iconic dibanding punya british paratrooper ini

Viar baterai pake DC, motor pake Brushless DC, aman..cukup buat speda listrik n motor listrik, klo mobil seingat saya pake baterai DC dan motor AC, karena torsinya gede bingit yg AC