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State can't fund it?

Just wait for the day when ice and fire will get together!

are you even reading what you wrote? you just called a whole nation ..........! And Who does mix up something like this in a serious conversation where we are discussing about potential future strategic security arrangement between nation states regarding TFX.

Bro, possibility of Pakistan and Indonesia being on board is pretty low. Indonesia got its hand full with KFX program. i dont think they got enough funding to be in two programs of this size simultaneously. on top of that KFX will gradually evolve into a 5th gen platform. So, why not stick with...

This is really some fucked up shit. I cant believe she was laughing! That tells lot about the culture she grew up in!

Any specific guess, who can that be?

i think, maybe you are misunderstanding south Koreas rationale behind the way they approached their strategic developments. they didnt had any urgent need to develop engines for KFX as the supply chain is secure due to good relationship with USA. But on the other hand, there is a plan for...

Pakistan is more then thousand km away. and between us and them the world biggest population . so, there is no possibility for any problems just because of pure geography. on top of that, they got tons to worry about India, Afghanistan and Kashmir. even if it wasnt the case, there is nothing to...

At least, how it looks like from the outside.

bro, at least your politicians dont steal the state's money or property regularly. others not even that lucky.

It should be.

You are right! I meant to say, PRE MODERN ERA nation states. Anyway, my point is, these stuff didnt exist historically in Muslim societies AT THAT LEVEL. which, I think is a crucial distinction and should be pointed out. Otherwise, comparing Turkish and Arab cultural discrimination against one...

THIS POST HAS SOME INTERESTING TAKE ON F35S EW CAPABILITY. https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-Rafale-SPECTRA-vs-F35-AN-239-EW-suite-compare How does the Rafale SPECTRA vs F35 AN-239 EW suite compare? They don’t really compare well. While modern 4th gen. EW suites like Spectra use some of the...

His posts are usually quite informative and useful, but if you read more of him you will notice he has some prejudice against Russian weapons and platforms. anyway, in my opinion, his analysis and conclusions about various western and eastern areal platforms are mostly on the stop.

Yes it does, but we all know this is a very toxic and dangerous aspect of our nature. it should be fought against and contained as much as possible, not accepted. Forget about religion, the fact that we are living in 21th century pre modern era and able to form current nation states, that is...

When I see how hard we are trying to allocate 3 billion dollars for only 16 typhoons or rafales I can only imagine how many KE and ackinci could've been brought with that money!

i was talking about full package deal including logistic, spare parts, training and ammunitions.

oh sorry, i misunderstood. you mean Pakistan must help turkey to develop those! i think, technical aspect is not a big issue, even Turkey can develop them without Pakistani help, it may take longer but it is very possible to get there. It is the geopolitical pressure which need be to dealt with.

pakistan already has them!

it was different geopolitical reality back then.