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  1. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Anything that TEI is going to produce would be too late for our needs. For the mid to long term program, TEI is the way to go. But for short term our hands are tied. There is one way to sort it all out, and that is RR. RR Adour is a 6000lbf class turbofan. It has afterburner if needed. This...
  2. Yasar_TR

    TR Military Operations Syria

    This is Turkish Intervention in Syria thread. All off topic posts are being moved to relevant threads or deleted. Please stay on topic.
  3. Yasar_TR

    TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

    There are rumours of Russian Afghanit being able to stop Depleted Uranium tipped Sabot rounds. But like with most Russian stuff it needs to be seen to be believed. Trophy developers are still trying on the case of sabot defence. But they accept that it is very challenging to stop a 4-5 Mach...
  4. Yasar_TR

    TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

    Kinetic weapons are the real APS killers. Trophy class APS do not have an answer to sabot rounds. 155mm howitzers and 127mm naval guns can fire Hyper Velocity rounds. This is what the answer is for APS fitted on any tank. These HPVs are precision guided and would be the ideal solution for long...
  5. Yasar_TR

    Defence Q&A how to counter F35's?

    https://voi.id/en/news/54259/no-longer-stealth-russia-can-detect-us-f-22-and-f-35-fighter-jets Interesting article, claiming Russian Nebo-M Radars being able to detect stealth planes. Not just stealth planes but hypersonic missiles from a distance of 600km.
  6. Yasar_TR

    TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

    All of what you say are well noted. But Abrams M1A2 tank in it’s latest guise, is arguably the top tank today amongst the tanks like leopard and black panther with it’s more advanced armour, fire control system etc. Abrams M1 has been battle tested over and over again and almost all relevant...
  7. Yasar_TR

    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    There are a few questions I would like to ask anyone, that really knows the answer, to reply: We have produced an “Ozgur” f16 prototype from a block 30 plane (without Aesa radar), and it has flown. If this prototype were successful, why are we still waiting for this upgrade to be implemented on...
  8. Yasar_TR

    TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

    Abrams M1A2 with today’s dollar value is 10.5 million dollars a piece at cost. (With inflation adjustment) That is 9.75 million Euros each. US engineering labour cost is 10 to 12 times more than Turkish equivalents. (~38dollars per hour for USA - ~3 dollars per hour for Turkey) So you would...
  9. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Not just the exorbitant price tag, but the very fact that when it was ready for serial production by the end of 2016 having completed initial tests; it is still not going to be in serial production for at least another couple of years. That is the biggest fiasco! 6 years on we are still not sure...
  10. Yasar_TR

    TR Propulsion Systems

    No one will give you IP rights of a modern 5th generation stealth plane’s engine. As it is going to be a lucrative engine deal for RR, they are not going to release IP rights to Turkey freely, even if we are prepared to pay for it. They will push to the last moment to obtain some form of hold on...
  11. Yasar_TR

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Having full stealth capability as per original design parameters and having partially stealth plane, has nothing to do with possessing good AI. Why do you think our computer engineers have been writing millions of lines of program? Flight and weapons control computers and computers controlling...
  12. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    I wish I had your optimism on these matters. But having lived through an Altay fiasco and blockage of sales of Atak-129 to Pakistan due to engines, one becomes rather sceptical. With respect to engines related to our air platforms we have nothing concrete in hand. The only engine we have is the...
  13. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Recently we have been fed with a lot of; Shall Will Going to But we really need to hear ; “We have secured a deal for the engines of TFX, Hurjet, Atak-2 and MIUS.” Because without engines these projects are dead even before they have started. We do not want another Altay story in our hands with...
  14. Yasar_TR

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Welcome to the forum! TFX will not have TVC with the current engine configurations. Both f110 engines that will be used in the prototypes and the subsequent indigenous engines planned that we know of, do not have this capability. We however do not know the contents of the discussions SSB...
  15. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    There is so much that is wrong about this that I don’t know where to start. 1. According to what you say, Bora has 320kg dry weight when totally empty. Surely….? (480kg payload??) 2. No country actually gives out specifics of their missile weights etc unless it is missiles like DF3 where it is...
  16. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/07/us-navys-virginia-class-submarines-get-more-tomahawk-missiles/ The Virginia Class Block V submarine will have an additional 28 missile slots in an extended section behind the sail. This will make the submarine much longer but will increase the total...
  17. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Even the Americans themselves realised they were far too big, expensive and unnecessary when they could have the smaller 1 billion dollar cheaper Virginia class instead. So they cancelled 26 of the 29 planned for production. Even those with bottomless pockets had to be more reasonable. But we...
  18. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    These South Korean subs are actually 3600tons, 83m long vessels with 9.6m beam. Our 214 Reis class is 1800tons, 68.5 m long with 6.3m beam. Our Milden subs would have to be significantly redesigned to accommodate a missile like Bora if such a need arose. But the question is; What are we going to...
  19. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Quite right! 1 million dollar a piece Bora is not a missile that can be expended easily. These are very inefficient methods of conveying explosives to their targets. There are AD systems nowadays that can neutralise these missiles. So unless you are able to saturate the target or have already...
  20. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    These two terminologies, if I am not mistaken, mean; Sub Surface Guided Nuclear. Sub Surface Ballistic Nuclear. Where are we going to acquire the nuclear reactors? Or obtain nuclear heads? Yes to be a world wide power you need this capability. But we have a long way to go yet. There are only a...

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