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    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    Still gendarme and police should be fused at some point. Why should there be 2 entities for internal matters? We are not like the US to have local police and interstate FBI, we are one country. Anyway, there will always opposing views on the matter. But realities don't change, we are a country...
  2. Nutuk

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    Everyone has an opinion on the matter, which is fine cos we need to discuss from all views to have a good overview. But let us also look at realities on the ground, take the blacksea region as example. The PKK tries to get a foothold even in the black sea region. Now the question, should the...
  3. Nutuk

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    Well my opinion is if we send our forces to fight the PKK that already had shot down attack helicopters of ours, than we have to give our troops the best materials to keep them safe and fight. The attack helicopter has a full combat suite with full self defense suite. IMO if the police has to...
  4. Nutuk

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    The gendarme (military police) is now part of the EGM (police force), was part of the army before. So yes police force is responsible for fights (against terrorism) inside Turkey while army is responsible for fights outside Turkey. So attack helicopters for police force is not so surprising...
  5. Nutuk

    Casual Discussion Chaka Salt Lake in Qinghai, China. "Mirror of the Sky"

    I've been there when I was in Tibet, wat does the colored flags mean the Tibetans have next to the lake (not in the picture)?
  6. Nutuk

    TR Marine Blue Homeland(Mavi Vatan)

    Etsinler, zaten bizim planlar yürürlükte 4x I sinifi 7x TF2000 Adamlarin safti kaydi Mod translate: Let them do it. Our plans are moving. 4x I class 7x TF2000 Please translate your posts in English. Thank you!
  7. Nutuk

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    Are you sure Barbaros class has 1x8? Hmm I was under impression that it was 2x8, anyway thanks!
  8. Nutuk

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    Our 4 modernized Perry clas have 1x8 cell VLS Our Barbaros class Meko 200's have 2x8 cell VLS 8 of our ships have VLS currently
  9. Nutuk

    Pakistan Pakistan Navy Milgem Project

    Why would Pakistan chose camm? Hisar is practically a same type missile. Pakistan would never get tech transfer from MBDA but Turkey probably would share the tech with brother Pakistan
  10. Nutuk

    Pakistan Pakistan Navy Milgem Project

    Recap of the Jinnah class Milgem With a length of 108.8 meter and displacement of 3000 tonnes it is a bit shorter than the I-class (113m) with almost the same displacement As weapons pack it carries: - 76mm Leonardo DRS (former Oto Melara) super rapid gun with TAKS fire control system of...
  11. Nutuk

    TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

    Although it seems now that the Leopard 2A4 with Altay turret is a demonstrator made by BMC, everyone like the idea very much. I personally would like it if a number (say 50) of the Leopards are modified like this (instead of begging the Germans for engines) and gain some time for de development...
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    TR Armed Forces Multimedia Center

    Not from Turkish media, but when I saw this picture I was thinking about Temel's joke Temel: “Sıkı tutunun uşaklar, elime tu diyeceğum….”
  13. Nutuk

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I don't think Biden has a say about the engines that TEI produce under license
  14. Nutuk

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Hope it hits a Greek frigate who makes the stupidity to enter a navtex area.
  15. Nutuk

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I read somewhere the rollout should be on 18 March or May, maybe I'm mistaken I don't remember it precisely. I think 18 March (Canakkale zaferi)
  16. Nutuk

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    probably at IDEF 2023
  17. Nutuk

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    ??? You mean TF2000 perhaps?
  18. Nutuk

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    Obviously a political delay because a big shot cannot attend the ceremonial, not a technical delay
  19. Nutuk

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    check what exactly?
  20. Nutuk

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    What you say is true, there are 2 CIWS on the MEKO, but I think there are also 2 CIWS on the I-class. One of the main differences between the I-class and the Meko 200 is the main 76mm cannon. As far as I know I-class is to get the super Rapid 76mm with possible the dart / strales munition (so...

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