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What I have read suggests that the Canadian decision, as to whether choose a German Type-212CD or a South Korean KSS-III-batch-2 submarine, will depend on industrial benefits to Canada. A recent South Korean new source (Seoul Economic Daily) is speculating that South Korea is lagging and now...

Further to this, I note the initial CDR for the first 3 River Class was held some time back. To change selection now would, I suspect, be very costly. Also, once one changes the 127mm gun (to for example the BAE 5") that also means a different firecontrol system/radar is needed. If one changes...

That would surprise me if true. I read the Canadian navy (via the prime contractor Lockheed Martin Canada) was planning to procure for each of the first batch of River Class the following equipment from Leonardo: * OTO 127/64 lightweight (LW) volcano system * quantity two Lioinfish 30/X 30mm...

I am not convinced I fully understand all of what is transpiring here. This is not all that it seems (or is it) ?? The Coast Guard Contract for the Legend-class was purportedly already cancelled prior to this recent decision for the Navy to procure a modification of these Coast Guard cutters...

According to gCaptain, the USN has been directed to go for a modified Huntington Ingalls Industries’ Legend-Class National Security Cutter design. That article claims: The WarZone also has an article on this.

I do not for 1 second believe the USN will choose a Type-26 to replace the Constellation class. The Type-26 are close to being the same size of the Arleigh Burke class destroyer and almost as expensive. Having typed that, never the less, I did find this article of interest - where the article...

Perhaps this is old news to some, but I think it relevant to this Canadian Submarine thread, in that the US Navy is placing confidence in South Korea to maintain its cargo ships. Ok ... a Navy dry cargo ship is NOT a submarine ... but it is a naval ship, and naval ships are typically built to...

Here is a link to an article with more detail on this Canadian submariner who was onboard the Korean KSS-III-batch-1 submarine at sea.

Recall this quote, where I noted what the unclassified press had to say about issues with the TKMS-Type-214 (where the newer TKSM-Type-212CD likely derives in part from the Type-214 and also from the 212A). ... Well, a recent article in South Korean press has picked up on these Type-214...

Of course - no sooner than I posted the above than a South Korean internet article potentially contradicted my assessment: Navy hosts Canadian submariner aboard 3,000-ton submarine amid export bid Some text from that article: I can't help but think - maybe there is more to this? I note...

On the topic of potential crew exchanges .. Some of the news articles on the Type-212CD class of submarine, are making very vague references, that if Canada would procure this class of submarine, it would open up exchange postings for the countrys to put sailors in each other's submarine. For...

There may be better links, but I note this US document about foreign sales in regards to the Canadian Navy plans for procurement for the River Class destroyer. Some extracts:

While I believe the Canadian decision, as to which submarine will be chosen, now depends on industrial benefits, and no longer on submarine capabilities, I am, never the less, learning more about some speculated differences between the South Korean KSS-III-batch-2 and the German TKMS-Type-212CD...

A 27-Nov-2025, South Korean news source stating "multiple industry sources" as their 'reference', (without naming the sources) ... claims the following: ... I only quoted part of the article The article notes at the end: ... I note again that the South Korean "multiple industry sources"...

IMHO this is good news for Sweden, where Sweden has two of the Blekinge-class submarine (also known as SAAB A-26) being built for the Swedish Navy. If Poland goes through with an order of quantity 3 submarines, by simply increasing the quantity of numbers (2 (Sweden) + 3 (Poland)) it could...

Taking a look at this another way, .... can Canada afford to train and maintain over the full life cycle, two different types of cruise missiles? ie... One missile type for the River Class Destroyer (Tomahawk) and one completely different missile type for the KSS-III-batch-2 (if chosen, and...

I was curious about this and dug a bit deeper. From what i can read, the issue (for any Canadian consideration of the surface launch version of the submarine launched Chonryong SLCM,, with the surface launched Hyunmoo-3 , might be the adapter needed in a Mk41 on a River Class Destroyer and not...

I agree when River Class Destroyer contract approved with Mk 41 VLS, that Hyunmoo-3 was never a consideration. The Mk41 VLS chosen was noted to have the dimensions necessary to support Tomahawk. However I will repeat, and as noted, an export licence has not yet (to best of my knowledge)...

Hello DAVEBLOGGINS I donot believe USA has approved yet export license to Canada for Tomahawk cruise missile. Will there be a political price for a Tomahawk buy from USA? Will an approval of Tomahawk, even if given now, change tomorrow , based on the side of the bed the USA POTUS gets...

Subject: If Canada picks KSS-III for CPSP, should Canadian River-class Destroyer project consider possibility to integrate Hyunmoo-3 instead of the USA Tomahawk in River Class destroyer? Possibly this speculation of mine could be better posted instead under the Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC)...