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Negotiation for both already in advance state, somerhing that can block them only advance fighter from US. But it seems they don't give it. Alright then, I think I have to say goodbye to my mimpi tak sampai: F16v, F15ex, FA18 SH, and F35.😢😤 Oh... and su35 too🙃

OOT! Indonesian Law enforcements don't care about Sharia laws, bring this somewhere else!

That case will be solved with or without this case happen. And blame FPI for creating this mess and make the the issue "teralihkan". Attacking officer is a NO NO ... Also english please..

They pushed it too far this time.

https://www.cnnindonesia.com/nasional/20201207124518-20-578879/bentrok-polisi-dan-pendukung-rizieq-6-orang-tewas https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/indonesia/indonesia-55211327.amp Escalation 😠😠😠😡

Denger2 ada crash di yogya, ada yg bisa beri bocoran?

It doesn't have to be fighter to be honest.

I'm sorry, is this Indonesia related?

Their black elbow protection are completely visible on IR

New caesar?

https://amp.scmp.com/week-asia/economics/article/3112634/indonesia-becoming-too-reliant-huawei?__twitter_impression=true

What Opung can bring from US to counter 08's Rafale? Are you sure they didn't discussed about this already? Edited by Mod: Use English only.

Okay, I'll change it like this. I pretty excited about MoD taking almost the complete control of procurement. Yeah, the consequences is a logistical problem, but atleast we can force the users to adapt and evolve quickly to High tech stuf. Because if we let the user take control completely...

You know, most probably they are. Because of that I actually pretty excited about Rafale. Yeah, it's a logistical Nightmare, but on the other hand it could force air force to operate and learn some high tech stuf!!

Maybe waiting for all Viper to get MLUed? Or maybe their top brass are too old-school and not "melek" technology.

US: "I give you the waiver if you buy our fighters." Indo: buy rafale.

Or just stay with Japan original system. Looking at fighter procurement, logistical issue definitely out of the window now!

Prabs kick out their Viper offer. Negotiate for what?

Is there something called "sukhoi-spec" office? I don't think so. An office is an office they could be used for anything.