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You see a IIR image in the video so is this not the hybrid model of Atmaca? Seeker and IIR together?

That won't be a Stealth fighter, they could push to the limit for stealth like they did it with F-15 steath. With internal weapon bay still a F-18. KFX is a fiasco project with minimum stealth, how they are going to put internal weapon bay is a mistery.

Black sea?

At last they understand that nobody will give it to you. If we had started 4 years ago 10 years would now left, every day we don't do is loss.

Each time a information about a engine is shared means another milestone is achieved..

Nobody did wrote about 48 months only Turan Oguz, should wait for officially statement about the time line of the project.

I have looked globally both countries when it comes to landforces i think both countries have state of the art weapons like SAM. Artillery and rest of the equipment is equal, but when it comes to Command and Control or Radar systems Morocco do it better. Still do not believe Turkey have sold...

don't forget Roketsan with ther MAM....

The last drone bender....

The funny part is they want lower nitrogen emmision and steal land of farmers because they think ther are the biggest polluter :LOL: . Building every wher in the north sea windmills what will not enough the demand of energy in Netherlands. All that windmills will need to maitained, it is cluster...

They should begin to build 10 nuclear reactor plants over EU, so they can maintain basic level of energy demand. Green or CO neutral energy is destroying industry.

you never now...

Lets summarise points, @selcukbayraktar should read defencehub forum at least a member should tag his twitteraccount :cool: . - supercruise ability - aerial refueling - carriere take of with out catapult - ?

Kizilelma should compared with F22 and not F35, Rafale is outmatched. I mean look to the shape of the drone and look to a F22. Only thing we can not talk is IR signature.

:cool: You can run but you can't hide. after

Thailand opened a tender wher Turkey, USA, China and Israel will compete.

ther was a engine program for ther fighter and still are they working on that. Maybe it was that Kaveri, it was 5 years ago when i read about ther engine program.

If we compare it, TEI is superior. I believe they are almost 30 years busy with the program so people who are talking bad about TEI should think twice what kind tecnology we are dealing with.

lol who cares.... TB2 production line, if it goes like this end of the year we will reach 400.

Well if go read a topic in the Indonesian section i need to learn Indonasion?