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I like Nuland pretending like they'd remove the sanctions even if Turkey gave away the S-400s tomorrow. Or re-admit Turkey into the F-35 program again.

Mod edit: Inappropriate language omitted. Kargu is nothing too advanced. It's a basic swarm suicide drone, Israel and the US have been exporting stuff like that for years and I doubt Turkish stuff is much better than theirs. And if you're referring to the Libyan "terminator AI hunting humans on...

ANCA should have told Armenian soldiers to GTFO out of Karabakh first.

No, I want Turkey to do two things: 1) Stop them from using the Turkish flag. 2) Stop them from blatantly committing horrific crimes with no repercussions and either put a leash on them or, yes, drop them. 3) Learn how to either engage in proper media warfare or don't give anti-Turkey...

Please re-read what you quoted again. I never said anything about moral and ethical fiber, I said that proxy warfare exists to keep good PR and a clean public image. If you're failing at even that, then what is the point of having proxies? The rest is just more whataboutism, what America and the...

I'm sorry but you are wrong on every account. You do not let your proxies run around with Turkish flags committing blatant massacres. You do not understand why proxy warfare exists, it is to offload your dirty work on deniable goons who can keep your country and brethren safe and advance your...

Pretty much all governments have accepted Taliban rule as a predetermined conclusion. I can only hope for two things: 1) Taliban helps stop the migrant flow. 2) Taliban stops attacking Turkic minorities. There are more but these are the two that I hope that Erdogan, as incompetent a diplomat...

Damn, that's rough Cypriotbro.

Turkey and Pakistan have always had their differences which were swept under the rug. For example, in Syria, there are some Pakistanis who fight in jihadist groups and even for Assad/pro-Iran/pro-Russia/anti-Turkey groups as soldiers for hire. And Pakistan directly co-operates with China to...

Taliban does have members from outside countries fighting in Afghanistan. And they are absolutely an oppressive regime. The only difference is, most of Afghanistan supports this oppressive regime for some bizarre reason. If I was in charge of Turkey, I would only care about finding some way to...

A presidential palace is not a self-respecting institution. It's an ego trip. Could've built something useful there, instead they are building something useless.

It's times like these that I'm convinced that Russia crushing Jadid reformists in the 19th and 20th centuries was the greatest tragedy of modern Islam. Turkic people could have reformed the religion and shook off the vestiges of such inane superstitions but no, instead we are stuck with morons...

I'm not sure rich rappers showing off is a standard that Turkey should be aspiring to. That wealth didn't appear out of nowhere. It took hard work and 200 years for America to get to that level of power.

There are much more important things that make one a state than building a presidential palace. A PRESIDENTIAL. PALACE. For the love of God, read the above and then tell me it doesn't sound like the most ridiculous thing ever. A president does not need a palace. Even the White House in America...

Ertugrul is the single worst thing ever produced by Turkish television. I am also encouraged to see that other Pakistanis quickly took these idiots to task in the replies.

So is the MIUS basically the first fighter jet drone in history? I haven't really seen any other country coming close or even attempting to make one.

The opposition has made it clear on numerous occasions that if they get into power, refugees and migrants are leaving - one way or another. Unsurprisingly, a lot of these migrants and refugees don't want to leave and AKP is letting them flood in with no restrictions. So they will vote for...

Uh, no. The ones here are ISIS-level. Simply trying to hide what they do won't work because with the level of surveillance in the modern world, the truth always comes out. Take away their phones, ban them from using the Turkish flag and enforce some rules on what they can and cannot do.

Using jihadists as proxies was a bad idea. Letting these proxies wield the Turkish flag while they do their thing and not enforcing strict policing on their actions was an even bigger one. For fuck's sake, is it so hard to ban them from using the Turkish flag? It almost feels deliberate. Or...

That may be so but the timelines don't match up for PKK control. And the crazy motherfuckers that TAF uses as proxies are not known for restraint. Just playing devil's advocate here.