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If you recall, at that same press conference, Modi interrupted Vajpayee, while the latter was saying that the duty of leadership should have been followed, to interject,"...but that is precisely what was done!" That left Vajpayee the awkward option of bluntly saying, "No, it wasn't," or shutting...

Ah, I believe the tea cups and saucers and milk jugs and sugar bowls were involved too, if we are to believe the old adage. Your point is taken; this was an old thread, and everyone has moved on. Fair enough.

Maybe later today. It is an interesting thread, especially since I have been binge-watching TV serialisations of the Ottoman imperial history from Suleiman the Magnificent (aka Suleiman Qanuni) onwards. But I have spent my day's internet energy already, and this needs a lot of detailed...

Good Heavens! My head didn't ache!!

That won't do. You aren't one of the patwaris or the youthias. Please don't tell me that you are drawn to these situations by an irresistible attraction, because that is simply not credible. Just ignore these. Please.

This is not a favoured metric among our neighbours.

Aren't you contradicting yourself? First you criticise India (apparently) by saying democracy and a caste system cannot co-exist. Then, after dropping heavy explosive devices on one team, you go on to nuke the playing field, and proclaim that democracy itself is a sham. Do you really have a...

Of course. But what flows from that? What is your point?

You might like to read up on the political structures of Mahajanapadas.

The comparison with India thereby becomes all the more forced.

I don't; but your essential point is presumably that the Sangh Parivar believes in an abbreviated, mutilated theology that is nothing but a desiccated form of Hinduism. It is difficult to disagree with that. About Jinnah, we can debate his role separately.

As far as I remember, I have been one of those agitating about Modi's role, and about the Sangh Parivar's menace to Indian society, from 2012 onwards. Fun fact 1: I am Indian. There are several million Indians who were involved in uncovering the facts behind this horrible series of murderous...

Given the quality of your posts and the quality of your information, this is a difficult proposition.

What does not exist cannot be abolished. Please find the facts before rushing to post.

Another instance of partial information. The agitation is not confined to the Punjab; it just happens to be the nearest state; UP farmers have also joined the agitation in large numbers. Even the muscle-bound morons leading the BJP have realised the stupidity of calling the farmers Khalistanis...

YOUR hidden animosity? This is going beyond silly into wilful and juvenile picking a fight.

Totally agree.

This is becoming downright silly. First, the determination of the Pakistani administration to stand firm against attacks on minorities and their institutions and buildings merely underlines the obvious fact that there are attacks. Second, the number of incidents that are anti-Muslim in India...

Gangs, vandalising buildings and terrorising people = members of the Sangh Parivar Orange flags = associated with Hindus, also with Sikhs, also with Buddhists. So what? The swastika was a Hindu symbol; is there a need to go into a song and dance about it?