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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    yeah, but most of us, Indonesian knows that all of those are nothing more than a result from a political games than why they buy Rafale more than F15EX?? is it because it cheaper? quantity over a suitable role
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    yup, i just think that if they don't want to redesign the hull for Sylver VLS, they still able to put those asters into Mk 41 plus Mk41 height is around +- 7.8-8 meter, they can put Syver A70 or A50 if they want to change it considering that it's height is 7 meters (A70) and 5 meters (A50)...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    5500-5800 tons GP frigate with no medium or long range surface to air missiles?? well, no offense but sounds like it's just Martadinata class with more ayes and bodyfat and how about the Mk 41s?? are they gonna plug it in? or just gonna add more mica's or Camm's..? Aster 30 is another options...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Smart S + Smart L, call it "Smart Vision" ok, let's make it short, NS100 instead of NS200 280km vs 400km worthed??
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    yeah, NS200... just have to put a sphere dome to cover that NS200 and voila, SAMPSON kw 1...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    looks like UK's Type 45 little brother..... but is it confirmed that it'll use SAMPSON MFR + S1850M VSR ??? why don't they chose (S1850M / SMART-L MM) + APAR ?? both of them from Thales plus, from Mandala's post, I can't see where they gonna put that sampson, are they gonna remove the top part...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    It this just me or not... those AK-630 is kinda miss placed... too many covered / blocked AOA
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    but what if it's true?? all those "anti bencana" things are too hard to get off from them...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    money, again... well at least he mentioned that we should push Indonesian semicond research to build this kind of stuff
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    yeah, don't know that the Indonesian resources is incapable to reach it or simply can't / won't see what it takes to get to it
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    yup, which is exactly why those "no HR abuse" things is nothing more but a part of a business....
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Why we have to discuss this thing, again War (KILLING, Taking Other People Life) is HR abuse. are they actually think that all of those war they have don't have any HR abuse??? even if it exist AND got recorded AND went viral, do they actually give a sh*t??? Real example : Israel-Palestine
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Wait Wait Wait i thought KRI 625 is KRI Klewang How come is shaped like a KCR??? is Klewang being shrink and lost it's side hull cause of the fire accident?? Prabowo in London; Indonesia Bags License for British Warship TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - State-owned company, PT PAL, secured a license to...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    I thought they will not allow us to buy it
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    i thought NC212i is using TPE-331-12JR-701C (723 kW), not TPE331-10R-513C NC 212i Indonesian Aerospace NC 212i Wiki
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    what kind of research that they want to do in Batam? what kind of product they trying to build? A better version of Fast (relatively) Patrol / Attack Boat? OPV?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    You forgot ToT bro.... and an agreement to build some of those locally
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    What about this one??? KC-46 Pegasus
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Hopefully that is what happened.... cause if they downgrade it from 40 to 28 knot, it's just to ridiculous for a fast attack boat Btw, they did change the engine KRI Golok 1.800 hp diesel engine + MJP 500 QD CSU KRI Klewang 1.800 hp diesel engine + MJP55

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