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  1. YeşilVatan

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    No, once Celalî rebellions became a regular occurance, Ottomans were not a true empire, but a gargantuan state mechanism that tried to consolidate on what they have and deal with rebellions while the central power continiously rot in decadence. It really was like the imperium of man in Warhammer...
  2. YeşilVatan

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    I'd argue that Ottoman "period of national greatness" was 1320-1570. After that, the bureucratic and military structure of the central government was just managing the decline. I read this very good paper by Glubb Paşa (Sir John Glubb); Fate of the Empires. It was about 25 pages but it really...
  3. YeşilVatan

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/dating/artificial-intelligence-dating-app-tiktok-b2063686.html Boys, our defence industry should focus on this project. Brightest minds of our country must be directed to solve this issue. Every Turkish man should be able to chat with 49,000 women...
  4. YeşilVatan

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    Welcome mr wick guy died? Sad day indeed, bros...
  5. YeşilVatan

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    If TFX was an e-girl I would simp shamelessly and donate my entire earnings to her onlyfans. I would live out of a cardboard box.
  6. YeşilVatan

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Yup. TAI sould take a page out of BAYKAR's PR handbook.
  7. YeşilVatan

    TR Libya Operations & Updates

    Now we need someone to photoshop İbrahim Tatlıses style afro to the bad boy lmao I believe central African countries are entering into a stage where they will experience continious fighting. They already were experienceing something like that but the entire Sahel region and its immediate south...
  8. YeşilVatan

    TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

    Ionian Sea maybe...
  9. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    God I love vulgar political discourse lol Founding Father of our country, Marshal Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (durağı Uçmak olsun) cannot be equated with primitive fundamentalist cavemen. However, arguing over who is considered a terrorist or not is a waste of time if not counterproductive. All...
  10. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    Fathers' rights are a serious issue. Whole alimony, divorce and child custody stuff is very hostile against males in Turkey. They take away men's children and hope. Might as well throw him in prison. That's honest-to-god state oppression in my book. Other side of this argument houses very...
  11. YeşilVatan

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Technically, yes. Politically, suicide move. Russia is the current great evil. Also, our geostrategic interests are conflicting. Plus they bombed our soldiers.
  12. YeşilVatan

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    That would still take 2 years to configure, test etc. in a best case scenario. But if everything goes south, I believe it would be a solid alternative actually.
  13. YeşilVatan

    TR Air Defence Programs

    Dope until you actually need to bomb stuff and US doesn't give passwords.
  14. YeşilVatan

    TR Defence Exports & Updates

    Drop some sanctions on them and then we'll speak lmao Seriously, though. Spain's shipbuilding industry is really good and Netherlands does a lot of high-tech subsystems. These countries are successful because they specialize and fill necessary niches in the gargantuan western military...
  15. YeşilVatan

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Bro that's kidding yourself. F-22 will be the best fighter jet well into the 2030s. Do you really think Americans wouldn't upgrade their super-duper fighter jet since 90s? MMU will be a wonder and change the game, but not by being the best. It will be mediocre at first, and gradually one of the...
  16. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    I remember reading Hezbollah used to cut girls' legs with razors when they just wore regular jeans in Diyerbakır. ISIS level idiocy and zealotry. Both AKP and the opposition are determined to find how much votes they can lose. It would be truly hilarious if it wasn't so destructive.
  17. YeşilVatan

    TR Economy & Updates

    Yeah, they've gone full soviet.
  18. YeşilVatan

    TR Turkey's Internal Counter-Terrorism Operations

    What you say doesn't contradict what I say. This new-age quasi-religion can infect social life to an immeasurable extent while keeping up the aesthetics. I'm talking about "The Turkish Republic will probably continue with its flag and symbols but Turkish nation will die" kind of stuff. Just...
  19. YeşilVatan

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    Only thing Tayyip improved in this entire universe is Turkish state policy on cigarettes. His performance on all other issues ranges from not enough to catastrophic failure. He is also from rize. He can't ever be based.
  20. YeşilVatan

    TR Politics

    I will never vote for Erdoğan because: Ergenekon-Balyoz sham trials So-called peace process (açılım) Mismanagement of economy Massive nepotism I don't like his mustache He's from Rize I will never vote for Kılıçdaroğlu because: He's gonna lose anyways Ekmeleddin scandal Presence of people...

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