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Unacceptable or not that is the nature of the contract and how they could get these yards involved with the NSS in the first place. Pretty hard to do the upgrades when the building is occupied with the build and fabrication is going on:sneaky: and your puzzled by that fact?🙄🙄 Its seems...

Not sure if your getting it so I'll try and explain again. Irving was selected in 2012 as the shipyard for the NSS and contingent of that the shipyard had to make upgrades as specified in the NSS contract that included the combat package. Like you said the design wasn't selected until 2018. Up...

Pretty hard to include technical upgrades when the size of what they were actually building and they did not as of yet know what design as it wasn't even chosen yet. Like I already said it was only a few years ago that Irving discovered that they would have to upgrade. That was communicated to...

Well there is number if issues of what you just said. As part of the NSP or NSS these days Irving had to upgrade their yard IAW the contract for the scope of work for the combat package of the NSS. The upgrades which was specified for a certain size ship were completed years before the type 26...

Yes they are in talks with government right now. I knew about this two years ago that the assembly hall wasn't suitable for the build as the type and dimensions of the selection grew over what was envisioned originally for Irving to ne selected as a NSS yard. They are looking for a 100M upgrade...

I believe I said they are not released to the public.

There are all kinds of those pictures and video, its just that they are not released to the public. Just last week I saw a presentation on the CSC, very interesting.

Sorry I am of the opinion that they are too big to fail but your right lets wait and see as have to don't we.

New concept art from LM

LM is not going to drop the ball on that fighter contract. The CSC is a forgone conclusion as well given the work that's gone into it.

Pretty Happy with the delay actually. This way we will get block 4 planes.

Sorry Can't see it as everything they have ever done has indicated the opposite and historically. As long as other parties prop them up or their rivals shoot themselves in the foot there will be no change soon or in the future. Would love for them to at least give us the basics.

Sorry not in this case.

Well your going to be waiting for a long time to that to happen. Canada has charted its own course of nuclear procurement for the military.

What you purpose is 20 years in the making if not longer, in other words too late and that's if we started tomorrow, had enough submariners which we don't and the right political climate and public support. While horrific of what's occurring in the Ukraine not an indicator that Putin will...

Wishful thinking and tilting at windmills. Its not a matter of hoping for this to happen but having serious discussions of what we currently doing and what we can reasonably do in the future that is cost effective and have a chance of actually occurring.

It is a ASW ship along with being everything else. The point is the original design of the type 26 only has a torpedo magazine to accommodate torpedo's for its own helo. The CSC has to have extra space for torpedo's for its helo and onboard launchers. Quite aware of the difference in weight of...

The reason why they were removed was the inclusion of torpedo's and extra mag storage which the type 26 doesn't have, the heavier Spy 7 radar and other systems. Every bit of weight saved here allows the ship to meet its speed potential. LEADMARK 2050 has the CSC operating in task groups and thus...

Not very puzzling at all and was just only released. The graphics on the LM page as you very well know show 24 VLS in the new renderings. I would think a fact sheet from the end user who pays the bills and sets the requirements would supersede anything else.

You just need to know where to look...... https://navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/assets/NAVY_Internet/docs/en/fleet/csc-fact-sheet-eng.pdf