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An air force that not only includes modern f16's but also air superior fighters like the F15 as well as 5th generation stealth aircraft like the F35. Meanwhile Turkey has about 300 fighter aircraft with many of them not being the most advanced F16's going. Just like in the wars with the arabs...

Turks should be writing article about the threat isreals nuclear program is Turkey to conjure up public sentiment for a domestic nuclear program. Also Turkey had one independence war, may we never ever experience another one.

I didn't even personally get into the nuclear power isreal has, in essence with one bomb Istanbul is gone and with it a 1/3rd of the Turkish economy. Lots of people here were finding it hard to comprehend how important airpower is and the fact isreal is more powerful in the air then Turkey. But...

so my first point was that air power is critical, the most important thing. Your response was "but what about the afghans" my response was the afghans are an exception, even then without airpower they got occupied for decades and had millions slaughtered. Had they had a powerful airforce maybe...

I think Isreal actually has a larger fighter aircraft force then either France or GB.

It takes decades to educate people. As for erdogan its his job to support the defence industry. What is he running the country for? To be a loser and to make sure Turkey loses? Its his job to do good for the nation, its not his job to engage in corruption like Altay/BMC that kills projects. Why...

A big part of winning is knowing what battles to fight. Isreal is not a battle for us right now.

Well if you want Turkey to be reduced to rubble and occupied for 20 years go for it. Yes the afghans kicked the americans and the vietmenese did. But they both lost millions and none of them damaged the USA directly. So if your happy to lose the battle, get occupied for 20 years lose millions...

Unless you can decouple Isreal from the USA, France and the UK, you shouldnt even look in Isreals direction. Thats just been rational.

I still remember when mavi marmara happened and the Isrealis killed the Islamist Turks onboard like they were pigs. Erdogan made lots of threats but did nothing. When a retired Turkish general was asked about going to war against Isreal, he basically said Isreal has a much better airforce, they...

Trolling is claiming air power isn't a decisive factor. Once you lose control of the skies its game over. But if you think old f16's are going to compete against F15's, F35's as well as modern Isreali f16's, you are fooling yourself. In the air Isreal will wipe Turkey. Once you lose control of...

Get to work then, what you waiting for? Go liberate Palestine. Just don't come back crying and screaming threats and doing nothing like you did over mavi marmara.

Turkish people never got their arse handed to them by the isrealis, we don't need to play this arab/islamic insecurity when talking about Isreal. Isreal is a serious power and Turks must take her extremely seriously. Otherwise you end up being humilated like the arabs in the 6 day war.

Most important thing in war is airpower. Our drones worked well because our enemies were weak in the air. Those tactics wont work against a nation that has a strong airforce. You lose control of the skies above, 99 times out a 100 you will lose. Also by the time Turkey rolls out her jet which...

2030 is optimistic. 2050 is more realistic. Remember Isreal gets state of the art jet fighters from the USA, while Erdogan got Turkey kicked out the F35 program. There is no way 9 years from now Turkey will be flying a more advanced air force then Israel, no chance. Turkeys own jet fighter if...

What is it with aggressive nations always portraying themselves as a victim. Everything is a threat and no one is allowed to have any power outside of themselves. The USA is another nation who always does this, always talking about threats, even threats from the poorest and most backward...

Its really point B that allows this stuff to happen. People can't separate their love of a political party to the reality of the specific event. As a result the problem persists and gets worse and worse. Since erdogan and ak party are the architects of this Altay/BMC mess it cannot be criticised...

They use this tactic/propaganda with the pkk/ypg very well.