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Arms industry and politics goes hand-in-hand, there's no denying that. What were the other options then ? I don't know much of Mushshak thing, so cannot make any comments.

I just can't comprehend this hate against the Leopard right now. Can we take a minute and accept the fact that Leopard was the best thing we could get at that time. Our tank inventory was incredibly obsolete up until we acquired Leopard 2A4 and our best tank was second-hand M60A3s. 2A4...

This could be a reason, I don't really know much of detailed specifics of how engine/transmission combination works. I doubt that one though, nearly every 8x8/6x6 tactical wheeled vehicle uses civilian/industrial grade engines, Ecotorq has been used on heavy duty trucks for years. Eh, that...

Well much of the transmission system of Arma II was local except for the gearbox per Mr. Serdar Görgüç's interview. Reason for why they did not used Ecotorq transmission is probably it's qualification tests were not completed. Arma II was introduced to public eye in January 2023, the source I've...

For some reason I remember KORHAN being requirement in YN-ZMA project, thank you for correction. I highly doubt Command would like to adopt ATGM + auto cannon combination. Whoever the winner is, we must use Ecotorq power pack and use it on the field as soon as possible to label it as combat proven.

Well we do use that too, but not on M60T. We use; - IMI MG253 120mm L/44 on M60T/TM/T1 - Rheinmetal Rh-120 120mm L/44 on Leopard 2A4/2A4T1 - MKE 120mm L/55 on Altay Apparently, MKE produces localised version (or direct license copy) of MG253 here locally as "120mm L/44 M60 Weapon System" as...

That simply because Sabra was modernised platform while 2A4 were in there base configuration. Also you must not overlook the fact that Sabra is more optimised for such operations, Israeli know-how and experience really shined in Sabra package. I cannot disagree more how so 2A4 is garbage ? We...

I wish this to be true but hearing numbers are dropped from thousands to 300s I don't have much hope. I doubt Altuğ can go toe-to-toe with Arma II or Pars Alpha at this point, Otokar and FNSS seems to have a huge lead. One thing I don't get it, why FNSS insisting on using their own turret...

Not currently, M60T/TM/T1 surpasses capabilities of Leopard 2A4 pretty much every field maybe except for mobility. As @Sanchez explained above, Fırat Modernisation and TİYK upgrades increased M60T's capabilities to another level. It should ne noted though, Leopard 2A4 has more room for future...

Otosan completed tests of Ecotorq Transmission System last year. I'm not sure if it was fitted to Arma II but they could use it in future.

Thing is M60T/TM/T1 is almost a two decade old platform and I'm not even counting service life of M60A1 which it was based off. Even then problem is not the age of the Sabra, problem is our most potent tank in service is two decades old. Urgent is an understatement, we desperately need them.

As I've just said, probably because Land Forces Command wants to stick with 105mm. MZK could be fitted 120mm as it support 125mm but the MZK prototype we've seen was fitted with 105mm. Turkish Armed Forces does not operate Sabra Mk.I, only Mk.II under M60T designation. That being said, Sabra...

In the same package we also acquire license of M322 and now actively producing localised version of it as MOD 290. MKE should have enough experience to produce something based off of MG253, but for some reason I cannot count on them. You mean M60A3, as M60T/TM/T1 already uses MG253 as their...

Well I doubt you can get more compact than that with wedge-style turret. MZK on the other hand reduces silhouette quite a bit. Question is a bit iffy, theoretically we should be since we have expertise and know-how. We must consider and ask this question how long we can abuse those M60A3s at...

The one I mentioned was shown in İDEF 2019, it is different than what is on MKE's website, YHSS. YHSS is proper C-RAM solution they're different. As I mentioned, it is discounted or evolved into YHSS. Precisely and thats probably why it was discontinued and/or evolved into YHSS. I'm not...

That turret was actually promising design, I'm not sure why it was not pursued. It weighs around only 500kg and would be cheap solution for FPV kamikaze drones and smaller drones. It also had pod for two MANPADS which would be useful against bigger threats.

There was a similar attempt back then, it was not exactly "Sabra" but it was visually similar to it. Sabra proved itself on the field, I believe such modernisation would also fare well if it was not power pack screaming I'm dying. Said Modernisation, M60A3T1 We should not count our M60A3...

Am I the only one who cannot spot any difference in armor scheme ? It is also mentioned that it received side skirt armor too but it looks identical to both M60T and M60TM. For the reference M60T And M60TM New designation M60T1 is also interesting, note that after Fırat Modernisation M60T...

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I'm fairly certain Serdar Görgüç (or Ufuk Aybar I cannot remember exactly) said that Ecotorq is not a military grade engine and will not be used on Tulpar. I cannot find the exact source right know, I'm scanning my sources I'll link it here once I find it. Of course it is hard to say anything...