@Nein2.0
I am responding here since this topic isnt related to drones directly.
He was actually defeated by his father you are aware right? After the defeat janissaries put him on the throne.
There was Mehmet I who had to build from kind of zero and I personally like Murat II as a soldier.
''In 8 years he achieved in a small amount of time. There is a reason why pan turkic nationalists like Nihal Atsiz praise Yavuz Sultan Selim.''
I mean you say in 8 years but that army was formed before that 8 years in 200 years. He defeated Safavids once and he defeated Mamluks twice. Of course it is remarkable, I am just saying calling him one of the best is exaggeration. We have men like Mahmut of Ghazna, Qutuz, Aibek, Baibars, Kilij Arslan, Murat II, Jalaladdin Menguberdi, Alp Arslan, Iltutmish, Imaddeddin Zengi etc.
''You are talking about a army that was undefeated. Shah Ismail was not a underdog''
Undefeated to whom is the real deal. Aq Koyunlu, Shirvanshah, Uzbeks. Safavids had great cavalry but horses didnt obey their riders when they heard the Ottoman cannons. Ottoman army had established military doctrines. If you watch ''Kings and Generals'' you can see Ottoman military doctrine is to drag the enemy army in front of the centre and centre to finish off with volley fire and cannons. Same tactic in Mohacs.
'' his Qizilbash bretheren worship him as some sort of messiah hence why who needs guns and cannons when our leader is unstoppable.''
This messianic bullshit was the reason they were defeated. All Ismail had to do was to keep stalling Selim and using scorched earth tactics. Selims army was on the verge of riot. Even janissaries shot a bow to his tent as a warning. It was going catastrophic for the Ottomans. Selim was desperately trying to lure Ismail in a battle by insulting him in his letters. But Ismail, being the fool he is, got provoked by the insults and faced Selims numerically/technologically superior army. In the battle Ismail even ignored the advice of his top general Nur Ali when he told him to make use of the only advantage of his army: mobility. To attack Ottomans before they could settle their army in the area. Ismail declined saying he didnt need such ''pesky'' tactics as Allah was on his side. He was also drunk during the battle.
''Why do you think Arabs hate Yavuz so much?? Because he took their leadership. Imagine that a Turk taking the leadership of caliphate. Most of the Caliphates were Arab now you have the Turks ruling.''
Arabs right now hate him because of modern Arab nationalism. They also use Mamluks as a symbol of Arab resistance to Turkish imperialism. The catch is, Mamluks were also Turks. This became a thing recently when Erdogan started supporting ikhwan and interfered with Arab inner politics.
Also it is a common misconception that Ottomans used their caliph title in their classical era. This title was remembered during the falling period of the empire.
''I dont think our Azerbaijani brothers are offended most of the Azerbaijanis I talked to on social media praise the Ottoman Empire due to their Oghuz Turkic heritage.''
Of course they are proud of the Ottoman Empire. The thing is, battle of Chaldiran is the part of Ottoman Empire that may be offensive to them. For example Mohacs or any other victory against...basically someone else, someone christian and non-Turkic would save the day. Since Azerbaijani consider Safavids as their own ancestor. I mean it is like Uzbeks naming sth Ankara. Even that isnt an excellent example because in Ankara many Anatolian Turks defected to Timurs side. Also there is a sectarian undertone in Chaldiran unfortunately and this government already has a bad reputation for this.
''Unlike a lot of Turks of Turkey who hate the Ottomans and see them as a source of shame I came across with a lot of these people.''
It is a reactionary thing because there are some people willing to undo the revolutions of the republic.
