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No idea.
But according to our manager a team should be given a certain minimum time to become available again for a second match. And the Turkish team was not given this time.

Bro, we just played like shit and underestimated the opponent, don’t listen to the stupid excuses how someone is again trying to stop us.

The schedule for the games and the bracket is known since like a year so everyone knew when and where his game will be if they qualify in a certain spot in the group stage.

Turkey played on Wednesday night against Serbia in Riga, Latvia where we played yesterday too. Swedes played also in Wednesday only like 2-3 hours earlier but they played in Tampere, Finland so they had to travel to Riga on top of it all. Ergin Ataman must prepare better next time instead of talking about medals and finals just because we won 5 games against weak teams and Serbia… Other teams are there to play and will fight too.
 

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No idea.
But according to our manager a team should be given a certain minimum time to become available again for a second match. And the Turkish team was not given this time.
We finished our group at the top. It is unprecedented that the first-place team plays the qualifier at that time. Alperen Şengün was hardly standing on his feet because of fatigue and that guy is an all-star NBA player. FIBA made a sinister plan, but we somehow managed to win.
 

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It is not a stupid excuse. The game was played at 12:00 Turkish/Istanbul time. To play a game at 12:00, you must sleep at 22:00(Turkish time) at the latest. There is something called a biorhythm. It is difficult to sleep at 22:00 if you are not used to going to bed at that time. You can't just change your sleep routine in a day or two.
Bro, we just played like shit and underestimated the opponent, don’t listen to the stupid excuses how someone is again trying to stop us.

The schedule for the games and the bracket is known since like a year so everyone knew when and where his game will be if they qualify in a certain spot in the group stage.

Turkey played on Wednesday night against Serbia in Riga, Latvia where we played yesterday too. Swedes played also in Wednesday only like 2-3 hours earlier but they played in Tampere, Finland so they had to travel to Riga on top of it all. Ergin Ataman must prepare better next time instead of talking about medals and finals just because we won 5 games against weak teams and Serbia… Other teams are there to play and will fight too.
 

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It is not a stupid excuse. The game was played at 12:00 Turkish/Istanbul time. To play a game at 12:00, you must sleep at 22:00(Turkish time) at the latest. There is something called a biorhythm. It is difficult to sleep at 22:00 if you are not used to going to bed at that time. You can't just change your sleep routine in a day or two.

Riga and Istanbul are at the same timezone. By your logic the game was played at 11:00 Stockholm time… Why Swedes played even better than their usual game?

I once again tell you, as a person who actually loves basketball and follows NBA, Euroleague, FIBA tournaments and everything- the tournament groups, schedule and bracket are decided months before the tournament so there was no sinister plan to stop Turkey or anything. In the end the hour and the field are the same for Turkey and for Sweden.
 

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It is evident that you haven't watched the match. A 24-year-old NBA all-star player was so tired that he could barely stand on his feet. This is not a coincidence. We will see this against Poland.
Riga and Istanbul are at the same timezone. By your logic the game was played at 11:00 Stockholm time… Why Swedes played even better than their usual game?

I once again tell you, as a person who actually loves basketball and follows NBA, Euroleague, FIBA tournaments and everything- the tournament groups, schedule and bracket are decided months before the tournament so there was no sinister plan to stop Turkey or anything. In the end the hour and the field are the same for Turkey and for Sweden.
 

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It is evident that you haven't watched the match. A 24-year-old NBA all-star player was so tired that he could barely stand on his feet. This is not a coincidence. We will see this against Poland.

Şengün is 23, not 24 years old. Go ask why the coach plays with a short lineup and makes him play 35 minutes a game and maybe you will understand why he couldn’t walk.
 

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Questionable squad the coach picked, there are players who aren't even playing for their clubs but somehow they are invited to the national team. He clearly doesn't follow the Turkish players in and outside of Türkiye. Hakan Calhanoglu is not a leader that f*cktard has no passion nor authority.
If you don't want to rip you a** apart for the flag on the jersey, then f*ck off, there are others who would.

Against Spain you don't play for the 3 points, you aim for a draw, wall, press and counter attack. But i don't know what Nutella was trying to play, aq random mf's playing in the park come up with tactics but somehow these shameless b*tches are not capable for that.

PS: those mf's owe me a coffee table.
 
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Guys, I can understand your anger but none of us had probably put point(s) for Spain games when the draws made, right? We all knew that we would have to go through elimination round.
True, score is infuriating but you are playing against Spain.
They have football culture that revolutionized football to its core. And after lagging couple tournaments, they are coming back even worse than before because now they have their own young Messi’s on their wings and those kids are terminators. DA BEST TEAM in the world, hands down.

We, on the other hand, have a good, talented, young(ish) and respectable squad which should make us have high hopes. Nevertheless, you can not, repeat, you can not play with one defender midfield against such a fast pacing and passing team. That was Montella’s biggest f*** up.

Anyways, let’s sit tight, win two Bulgaria games and see what happens. 🤞

@CAN_TR sorry for the coffee table. Chill out bro 😇
 
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Guys, I can understand your anger but none of us had probably put point(s) for Spain games when the draws made, right? We all knew that we would have to go through elimination round.
True, score is infuriating but you are playing against Spain.
They have football culture that revolutionized football to its core. And after lagging couple tournaments, they are coming back even worse than before because now they have their own young Messi’s on their wings and those kids are terminators. DA BEST TEAM in the world, hands down.

We, on the other hand, have a good, talented, young(ish) and respectable squad which should make us have high hopes. Nevertheless, you can not, repeat, you can not play with one defender midfield against such a fast pacing and passing team. That was Montella’s biggest f*** up.

Anyways, let’s sit tight, win two Bulgaria games and see what happens. 🤞

@CAN_TR sorry for the coffee table. Chill out bro 😇
Its not about losing against Spain but how.
Bulgaria(fifa 84) 0 - 3 Spain
Türkiye(fifa 27) 0 - 6 Spain

This game was an insult!!!
 

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Its not about losing against Spain but how.
Bulgaria(fifa 84) 0 - 3 Spain
Türkiye(fifa 27) 0 - 6 Spain

This game was an insult!!!
The biggest defeat at an official game since Turkey vs England in 1987, actually.
 
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The biggest defeat at an official game since Turkey vs England in 1987, actually.
There is no fire,to much satisfaction,lazy fucks.
But it is in the genes,hard to get it out.
Take a look at history,we dont act we only react.
This started after the 16/1700's,to much wrong mixing with other races.
Now the killer mentality is gone/rare in our society,passive.
 

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Man i’m in the shits. 0-6! wtf!

and…Ladies volleyball team runners up to team Ego.

Now, all I need is for Alpi & Ergin to shit the bed on Wednesday and that’ll be a hat trick ffs.🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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There is nothing questionable with the squad or starting lineup. We lost this heavily because of tactical mistakes. If you try to compete against Spain on equal terms, this is what happens. We should have parked the bus. We could have still lost this game, but it wouldn't have been like that.

This is what happens when you want to have as much ball possession against a technically superior team. We should have defended well at the back and looked out for counterattack opportunities.

Ball possession 50%/50%
Acc Pass/Total Passes 443/506 vs 470/526
 

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There is nothing questionable with the squad or starting lineup. We lost this heavily because of tactical mistakes. If you try to compete against Spain on equal terms, this is what happens. We should have parked the bus. We could have still lost this game, but it wouldn't have been like that.

This is what happens when you want to have as much ball possession against a technically superior team. We should have defended well at the back and looked out for counterattack opportunities.

Ball possession 50%/50%
Acc Pass/Total Passes 443/506 vs 470/526
We, on the other hand, have a good, talented, young(ish) and respectable squad which should make us have high hopes. Nevertheless, you can not, repeat, you can not play with one defender midfield against such a fast pacing and passing team. That was Montella’s biggest f*** up.
 
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