TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Spitfire9]

I think UK would be pleased to sell its 30 x Tranche 1 Typhoons. They are scheduled for withdrawal from service in 2025. Spain and Italy might be interested is disposing of early Typhoons, too. I don't know what control Eurofighter partner governments have over other partners selling their used Typhoons. I think that the UK ones have a lot of hours left on the airframes. UK paid around $60 million for its Tranche 1 Typhoons, so they could be very cheap. Spares are reported to be very expensive, but using them for 5-10 years as a stop gap to KAAN might be economically practical for Turkiye.

 

[Afif]

Trench 1 has no practical use for TurAF.

 

[Oublious]

If Germany keeps the blockade alive, this will be a reason for other countries not to start a project with Germany anymore. How much money they ate losing.

 

[uçuyorum]

Trench 1 has no practical use for TurAF.

I mean at least they are not f4?

 

[Spitfire9]

Trench 1 has no practical use for TurAF.

OK, so

NO Rafale
NO Typhoon
NO Su-30, Su-35 (NATO members do not buy Russian fighters)
and if NO F-16
NO Gripen E (uses a GE engine)
NO HAL Tejas, KAI KF-21 (both use a GE engine)

What's left? JF-17?

 

[Heartbang]

I mean at least they are not f4?

Trench 1's have near-zero A2G capability.

 

[Spitfire9]

Trench 1's have near-zero A2G capability.

They did not initially. I suspect they acquired better A2G capability later, even if still limited

 

[TR_123456]

OK, so

NO Rafale
NO Typhoon
NO Su-30, Su-35 (NATO members do not buy Russian fighters)
and if NO F-16
NO Gripen E (uses a GE engine)
NO HAL Tejas, KAI KF-21 (both use a GE engine)

What's left? JF-17?

There is another option.

NO nothing

 

[Kartal1]

Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler: We plan to purchase 40 Eurofighter Typhoon warplanes from England and Spain.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725210146832281827

Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler:

"We want to buy 40 Eurofighters, it is a very effective aircraft, Germany objects. England and Spain say they will solve it."

"I am not in favor of buying the F-35. There is a different debate in America about whether we should switch to another plane."

"We cannot take the S-400 and deliver it to the corner of a factory. We push the button when we need it."

"I hope KAAN will make its flight at the end of this year."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725213849911968109

 

[Ripley]

Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler: We plan to purchase 40 Eurofighter Typhoon warplanes from England and Spain.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725210146832281827

Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler:

"We want to buy 40 Eurofighters, it is a very effective aircraft, Germany objects. England and Spain say they will solve it."

"I am not in favor of buying the F-35. There is a different debate in America about whether we should switch to another plane."

"We cannot take the S-400 and deliver it to the corner of a factory. We push the button when we need it."

"I hope KAAN will make its flight at the end of this year."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725213849911968109

Then this news was true

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725143818813513888

 

[Spitfire9]

There is another option.

NO nothing

As an outsider uninformed about the political machinations in the region, that sounds like an appealing course of inaction should F-16 be blocked. Especially if the F-4's have a few years' life left in them and are not extremely expensive to maintain.

 

[cr33pt3d]

since this news is true, i'm scared now about REIS project.
rumors about REIS might be true after all. if they kill the REIS project we are fucked bad.
we can survive without EF2000, but REIS will be hard.
ne gunlere kaldik AMK. : trans fucked-up days

 

[TR_123456]

As an outsider uninformed about the political machinations in the region, that sounds like an appealing course of inaction should F-16 be blocked. Especially if the F-4's have a few years' life left in them and are not extremely expensive to maintain.

The region was never a problem we cant handle.
This so called procurement is just to show that ''our allies'' are not really our allies.
The F-4's are retired already and we dont really need them anymore.
Germany is already put in its place by the US(Nordstream gas pipeline and replaced by Poland)),Russia and now its our turn.
Refusal by Germany will be seen as a hostile act which will cost Germany more then it does us.
The F-16 refusal is also only used for the same reason.
Türkiye just wants to corner them politicly for later use.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

OK, so

NO Rafale
NO Typhoon
NO Su-30, Su-35 (NATO members do not buy Russian fighters)
and if NO F-16
NO Gripen E (uses a GE engine)
NO HAL Tejas, KAI KF-21 (both use a GE engine)

What's left? JF-17?

If i was Turkiye i will do this :
1- Buy 100 of J-10 if possible install Turkish sytems and give them to Jandarma air force (not army air force)

But its too late , this should be done 2010-2015. Now even if we order fighters they will come after 4-5 years when KAAN will become active so just work hard on national fighters .

Aslo Turkiye is buying western airbus planes this is aslo wrong , Turkiye should work with china , Russia, Brasil and buy at least regional planes from them and buy only some 20 intercontinental planes from west
Western world is in decline and better to split our roads now then whem becames too late .

 

[cr33pt3d]

If i was Turkiye i will do this :
1- Buy 100 of J-10 if possible install Turkish sytems and give them to Jandarma air force (not army air force)

But its too late , this should be done 2010-2015. Now even if we order fighters they will come after 4-5 years when KAAN will become active so just work hard on national fighters .

Aslo Turkiye is buying western airbus planes this is aslo wrong , Turkiye should work with china , Russia, Brasil and buy at least regional planes from them and buy only some 20 intercontinental planes from west
Western world is in decline and better to split our roads now then whem becames too late .

the day you buy anything with significance from china you can say Goodbye to F110 for Kaan and F404 for hurjet etc... no more LM2500 ... back to stone age.

 

[TR_123456]

If i was Turkiye i will do this :
1- Buy 100 of J-10 if possible install Turkish sytems and give them to Jandarma air force (not army air force)

But its too late , this should be done 2010-2015. Now even if we order fighters they will come after 4-5 years when KAAN will become active so just work hard on national fighters .

Aslo Turkiye is buying western airbus planes this is aslo wrong , Turkiye should work with china , Russia, Brasil and buy at least regional planes from them and buy only some 20 intercontinental planes from west
Western world is in decline and better to split our roads now then whem becames too late .

J-10 was never an option,even the Su-57 wasnt.
We will wait for the KAAN.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

since this news is true, i'm scared now about REIS project.
rumors about REIS might be true after all. if they kill the REIS project we are fucked bad.
we can survive without EF2000, but REIS will be hard.
ne gunlere kaldik AMK. : trans fucked-up days

And some Turks still want to work with west and see them as example to follow this remember me flies in cow ass , west never accepted Turkiye and Turks should know it and splint their road one and forever .
If Reis is stopped than germany will pay billions of dollars and with that money we can build other weapons like istanbul class frigates or work for National Milden .

 

[BalkanTurk90]

the day you buy anything with significance from china you can say Goodbye to F110 for Kaan and F404 for hurjet etc... no more LM2500 ... back to stone age.

All those can be replaced with National or russian , china ones until national one are ready but if Usa do it than US say goodbye at incirlik airbase and other bases around Turkiye .

 

[BalkanTurk90]

J-10 was never an option,even the Su-57 wasnt.
We will wait for the KAAN.

Bro J10 is super fighter aircraft and has only 1 crash that is caused by human fault it was a woman pilot while western super duppa f35 crash every month and lost in unknow direction

 

[what]

All those can be replaced with National or russian , china ones until national one are ready but if Usa do it than US say goodbye at incirlik airbase and other bases around Turkiye .

The day US troops in Incirlik are gone, is the day that the NATO umbrella nukes are gone.