TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

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I remember i read that the altay was one of the best tanks on paper a few years back in time with their akkor protection. I guess since the delay that altay have keept improving, but do we now any more about any big tweaks?
 

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Well it would have been foolish to initiate production and then stop it again after a few units bcs of no power pack. Altay has been an unfortunate affair but hopefully the troubles are coming to an end.
The thing is there is still no powerpack. Korean solution needs to be tested which will take a good amount of time. Integration of Korean powerpack plus 10000km mobility tests will take a good amount of time so production will be stopped regardless.
 
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I remember i read that the altay was one of the best tanks on paper a few years back in time with their akkor protection. I guess since the delay that altay have keept improving, but do we now any more about any big tweaks?
FCS is completely renewed. There are also some other improvements i can't remember now.
 

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Domestic production barrels that power Turkey have turned their direction to exports.

Eyüp Anlaş, General Manager of Enderus Technology, told Anadolu Agency (AA) that they started R&D studies for the production of medium caliber barrels and weapons for the Turkish Armed Forces in 2017.

Explaining that they focus on the production of products that are not produced in Turkey or produced under foreign licenses and that are subject to embargo from time to time, Anlaş stated that they focus on the production of medium caliber cannons and barrels of various diameters in line with the needs of the country, in line with the needs of the country.

Stating that they have developed the 20 millimeter automatic Enderus T-20 cannon with a proven gas recoil rotary drum operating mechanism, Anlaş reported that they have completed basic firing tests at adjustable firing rates that can reach up to 1500 rounds/minute with a wide range of ammunition that can meet variable tactical needs. Anlaş informed that they continue to work on the production of this gun as a family that includes other medium caliber guns in 25, 30, 35, 40 millimeter diameters with its superior dispersion and gun/barrel life performance.

Anlaş emphasized that they preferred the electro-chemical processing method instead of the conventional methods, which have a very high upfront investment in barrel production and have foreign dependency in the machinery-equipment used. Noting that at the end of the studies, they created their own production models and produced the appropriate benches and tooling, Anlaş said:

"While developing the barrel, we simulate all of the ballistic calculations with mathematical models. Accordingly, we can design the desired weapon and barrel. We are not dependent on anyone. We have solved the mathematics of this job, for which we have also received patents. Once you solve this, you have the opportunity to make the desired weapon and turn the country into a major player in this field. There is now Enderus Technology as well as the few companies that produce medium caliber guns and barrels.

At the end of all these studies, we have come to the point where we can produce medium caliber guns and barrels from 5.56 to 120 millimeters in diameter by processing high quality steel. We produce 5,56, 7,62, 12.7, 20, 25 millimeter barrels. Our work on 30-35 millimeter barrels continues. We can also open a 120 millimeter barrel, we have prototypes with a length of 3 meters. Our 20 millimeter barrel has successfully passed the shooting tests, the qualification process has been completed, it is ready for mass production. Turkey's first domestically produced medium caliber barrel has been included in the inventory. The 40 millimeter grenade launcher barrel is already used by the security forces. To date, we have delivered more than 1000 barrels in different calibers and quantities. There are processes for which we are waiting for export permission. There are thousands of demands per month. We will start exporting by 2022. It looks like the USA or Kazakhstan will be the first."

97 percent local rate

Noting that they have a locality rate of over 97 percent in guns and barrels, Anlaş said that they use domestic resources in all processes, that the production information package belongs to them, and that they do not use any licensed components. Anlaş said, "Therefore, there is no restriction on exports. It can be exported to any country and user that Turkey deems appropriate." he said.

Anlaş noted that the manufacturing infrastructure and technological knowledge pool they created closed the gap with the world's leading manufacturers in barrel production, and laid the groundwork for the emergence of original designs and unique products of Turkey.

Eyüp Anlaş stated that low recoil medium caliber guns with their barrels have a wide range of uses such as air platforms, patrol boats, armored combat vehicles, fixed turrets, wheeled tactical vehicles.

Stating that they do not have any problems with production capacity as they produce their original machines, and that they can scale the machines according to the desired barrel, Anlaş stated that they are at a point where they can meet possible demand increases by commissioning additional production lines in line with the needs.

Collaboration with gun manufacturers

Anlaş stated that they cooperated with Turkey's leading arms manufacturers starting from the design process.

Emphasizing that they aim to meet the needs of companies that want to produce weapons but avoid high barrel investments and to show up in world markets together, Anlaş said that for this purpose, they also provide grooving service with advanced technology while producing their own barrels.

Explaining that their vision for the future is to work on material technologies, Anlaş said, "Electro-chemical processing technology is not only used in the barrel. It is possible to process high precision parts with this technology. We aim to offer this technology to the use of different sectors such as aviation and energy, and to manufacture machinery or parts." said.

 

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Turkey’s defense minister admits failure of tank project run by Erdoğan’s friend​

“Unfortunately, no results were obtained from the export license applications made for the supply of the Altay tank engines and transmission system,” he said.

 

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Turkey’s defense minister admits failure of tank project run by Erdoğan’s friend​

“Unfortunately, no results were obtained from the export license applications made for the supply of the Altay tank engines and transmission system,” he said.

Nordic monitor is a worthless propaganda paper doing nothing but producing lies.
 

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Turkey’s defense minister admits failure of tank project run by Erdoğan’s friend​

“Unfortunately, no results were obtained from the export license applications made for the supply of the Altay tank engines and transmission system,” he said.

Nothing new in the article but the anti-turkey propaganda though

It is true that German embargo screwed and it is true that Erdo's friend gave empty promises about how BMC under his control will obtain tank production technology in less than 3 to 4 years and it turned out to be a hoax. This made Turkey suffer a lot and couple it with the fact that BMC didnt even know how to build a tank made the propsects of developing a tank even more bleak

But now, things have changed!

BMC developing a prototype indicates that it Finally possess the technology and know-how to actually set up a production line and build the tank. I still dont know how Nordic monitor believe that this is useless, lool

Hopefully, in February, Turkey will be able to strike a deal with S.Korea for T1 phase of the tank
And for domestic engine, it is gonna be finally tested with the domestic transmission in 2022 and hopefully will be put into production in 2024


All what I know from this story is that Germany just created another competitor in a market which germany had always ensured that it remains in its pockets
 

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Nothing new in the article but the anti-turkey propaganda though

It is true that German embargo screwed and it is true that Erdo's friend gave empty promises about how BMC under his control will obtain tank production technology in less than 3 to 4 years and it turned out to be a hoax. This made Turkey suffer a lot and couple it with the fact that BMC didnt even know how to build a tank made the propsects of developing a tank even more bleak

But now, things have changed!

BMC developing a prototype indicates that it Finally possess the technology and know-how to actually set up a production line and build the tank. I still dont know how Nordic monitor believe that this is useless, lool

Hopefully, in February, Turkey will be able to strike a deal with S.Korea for T1 phase of the tank
And for domestic engine, it is gonna be finally tested with the domestic transmission in 2022 and hopefully will be put into production in 2024


All what I know from this story is that Germany just created another competitor in a market which germany had always ensured that it remains in its pockets
Korean engine operated with German transmission.
This means that a new Turkish one must be produced or another box must be found, that has as result that there must be structural changes.
 

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Korean engine operated with German transmission.
This means that a new Turkish one must be produced or another box must be found, that has as result that there must be structural changes.
You really need to keep up with the forum mate
Read previous posts
They will use a korean engine with a korean transmission
Why do you think they will sign the deal in 2022 amd start tank producion in 2023?

The korean transmission is ready and will be tested. In fact, it has already been tested before but it will be retested since it had some minor flaws that have been repaired by the designing company. In other words, all what is remaining is the 10,000 km durability test

Again, due to Germany's stupidity, Turkey and South Korea will screw the German monopoly over the market
 

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Turkey’s defense minister admits failure of tank project run by Erdoğan’s friend​

“Unfortunately, no results were obtained from the export license applications made for the supply of the Altay tank engines and transmission system,” he said.


Posts nordic monitor.

For that you should be happy im not a mod. That would easily be banned for that.
 

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Turkey’s defense minister admits failure of tank project run by Erdoğan’s friend​

“Unfortunately, no results were obtained from the export license applications made for the supply of the Altay tank engines and transmission system,” he said.

It takes some effort and 2 brain cells to read and understand what is written in two lines quoted by yourself.
 

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Nope, just need open mind, critical thinking and common sense.
Those doesn't work unless there are at least 2 functioning brain cells.
Like turning on a computer without a CPU inside, but programs installed. It only bleeps repeatedly the same pattern.
 

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Korean engine operated with German transmission.
This means that a new Turkish one must be produced or another box must be found, that has as result that there must be structural changes.
Damn Turkish engineers are so dumb they are purchasing the engine but totally forgot the transmission. Thanks for enlightening us.
 

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Turkey’s defense minister admits failure of tank project run by Erdoğan’s friend​

“Unfortunately, no results were obtained from the export license applications made for the supply of the Altay tank engines and transmission system,” he said.

If: "No results obtained for the export license of the Tank engine"

Equals to: "Defence minister admits failure of the Tank project".

Then it means the two brain cells are missing to evaulate the simplest logic. This applies to author of the article and whomever copying and highlighting this in this forum.

If you are open minded as you claim, you can also read those lines as : "Germany has not permitted sale of German engines, and Turkey is looking alternatives to continue and complete the tank project's serial production phase."

But yeah, why not after all, post a well known FETOist nordic monitor's article in this forum for sake of some anti-Turkish propaganda?
 

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Damn Turkish engineers are so dumb they are purchasing the engine but totally forgot the transmission. Thanks for enlightening us.
Your thanks, to transfer them to Akar and to the media that not controlled fron Erdogan. These are the key factors that enlightening you. You were now waiting to install a Korean engine without having solved the transmission problem.
 
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Your thanks, to transfer them to Akar and to the media that not controlled fron Erdogan. These are the key factors that enlightening you. You were now waiting to install a Korean engine without having solved the transmission problem.
Average greek coping with not producing anything can't you read It literally says South korean engine and Transmission bruh your Turk hatred ia literally rent free on your hand englightening us by sending propaganda sites lmao Also İnternet is free I can check everything nvm just cry because you can't even produce read the other comments before making up shit
 

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Your thanks, to transfer them to Akar and to the media that not controlled fron Erdogan. These are the key factors that enlightening you. You were now waiting to install a Korean engine without having solved the transmission problem.

Funny how the Turks are striving to build themselves a defence industry while only thing I see Greeks doing is either laughing, calling us brainwashed or seething about it.

You can buy all the weapons you want there will always be a limit.

Remember this saying never put your interests or the defence of your nation to another nation.
 

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