Greece Analysis APACHE AP/ SCALP EG/ Storm Shadow/ SCALP Naval/ Black Shaheen

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You really think you can afford ships with Sylver A70 ?
do not ignore their Rafales
Greece can use AM39 Exocet in the advanced Rafale.

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Rafale is a very capable fighterjet. Egypt wants to reduce the number of SU-35s and increase Rafales.
 

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I am neutral one but the Rafales have doubled the Greek air force's ability..You can't deny that, can you?
Rafales are adding quite good capabilities to HAF we cannot ignore them.. But they are not changing the balance for now.. İf they are going to stay with 16 jets.
 

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I think France will not worry about this bureaucratic papers.
MTCR is non binding yet everybody takes it serious because they know where it would reach to once it is ignored.
France does not worry about that,then China may also not worry, or Russia or who knows maybe even Pakistan?
 

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Rafales are adding quite good capabilities to HAF we cannot ignore them.. But they are not changing the balance for now.. İf they are going to stay with 16 jets.

Eventually, the Hellenic army will intend to buy the F35. Either the number of Rafales will increase or the F35 will be added.
 

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MTCR is non binding yet everybody takes it serious because they know where it would reach to once it is ignored.
France does not worry about that,then China may also not worry, or Russia or who knows maybe even Pakistan?

Even if it does, I don't think it will be officially announced. We can see surprises in the war. I hope we don't fight.
 

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Whether Greece does get scalp naval / MDcN is a question

Whether Turkey get Gezgin is not a question, it's guaranteed!
 

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Scalp naval
Scalp.jpg



According to Ibrahim Sunetci
Gezgin will have similar round body shape as scalp naval (since it will be VLS launched) but the nose cone of Gezgin looks piramidal like our SOM missile

SOM
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Eventually, the Hellenic army will intend to buy the F35. Either the number of Rafales will increase or the F35 will be added.


The question will be can you keep it on track? All that fighers and weapons need to be maintenance and is not cheap. All that weapons need to be pay, your friends don't want a broken country.
 

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Greece wants a lot

Greece wanted
BMP3
FREMM
G36
EF2000

But what did Greece get? Nada!

Wanting some things and getting them are a bit different.
 

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Even if it does, I don't think it will be officially announced. We can see surprises in the war. I hope we don't fight.
Well hopefully your commanders do not underestimates their enemy as you do, otherwise it will be a disaster.
 

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Scalp is not even intended for attacking moving sea targets..
Correct! Scalp as produced, is not capable of hitting moving targets like ships in the sea.
But France’s Scalp inventory is going through a mid life upgrade. It includes a two-way data link for in-flight retargeting and a different seeker. (With Dual Mode Active IR and Imaging IR Seeker).
This will give them the capability to target moving sea targets.

As you rightly mentioned Naval Scalp may hit stationary sea targets,. But it is a naval cruise missile. also it has it’s own problems.
 
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This has turned into everybody vs. the sole Greek user.
 

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Greek independance break away from the Ottomans only to be ruled by a German or a Dane.

Not independance more like under new management.

Any body notice this all the Balkan countries that became independant from the Ottomans apart from Serbia and Montenegro were ruled by foreign monarchs who came from Germany or Denmark.
Those monarchs adapted quickly to their new country's interests. The German Hohhenzolern king of Romania went to war in WW1 against..........Germany.
 

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Those monarchs adapted quickly to their new country's interests. The German Hohhenzolern king of Romania went to war in WW1 against..........Germany.

Egypt is now making moves in line with its own interests. Secularism is very important for countries. It doesn't matter if a country is the same as your religion. If Egypt's cooperation with Israel is beneficial for Egypt, egypt should definitely work wit israel
 

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