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At this point I have no idea which map to believe and which of them all is reliable.

Still it bothers me to see no push at Aghdam which is in relatively easier terrain and has a lot of symbolic value for whole Azerbaijan.
 

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While looking at it's size and speed I think It is most probably MAM-L. As @Combat-Master speculated earlier it could be a pre-calculated route to the target before the bomb picks the laser and goes into a terminal mode. That capability needs GPS/INS and laser guidance which is in MAM-L. With the newest improvements that were made some time ago over the initial production MAM-L GPS and INS were added as an option of guidance along with extended range of up to 14km, different warhead and fuse types. I am curious what would MAM-L Block II bring to the table but that is a topic for another thread.
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You can see in the video that the Armenian soldiers is running inside the trench at the terminal phase and since this is a night shot i guess visual contact is unlikely which means that even thought those are gliding bombs they must still make quite a bit noise.
Is it known how fast those bombs glide?
 

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At this point I have no idea which map to believe and which of them all is reliable.

Still it bothers me to see no push at Aghdam which is in relatively easier terrain and has a lot of symbolic value for whole Azerbaijan.
Well tbh Aghdam is on a topological sense low, the Enemy would have the high ground and would therefore have the upper hand in combat and artillery, thats why I think that there aren't many pushes in the north.
 

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You can see in the video that the Armenian soldiers is running inside the trench at the terminal phase and since this is a night shot i guess visual contact is unlikely which means that even thought those are gliding bombs they must still make quite a bit noise.
Is it known how fast those bombs glide?
While it is clearly visible on the camera and it looks slow it is steel pretty fast. According to Baykar the flight time to a target ranged at 8km is 80s which means 10s per kilometer and 100m per second. Those figures are while taking in account the angle of attack which I think will be flatter and on steeper angle it should be faster because of the aerodynamic properties of the bomb. Of course the velocity of the UAV is important factor here. The bomb gliding looking so slow have to be an illusion due to the altitude of the UAV and its look at the point of impact and the bomb. I count at least 14 seconds in flight for that target so that is supposing the range is not so high so the bomb is also gliding in a higher speed.
 

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No idea. Armenia hasn’t released any footage of corpses. So why would Azerbaycan abandon vehicles unless they’ve broken down.

The south is currently under Azerbaycan control.

The tweet says civilians has fled hankendi the socalled capital. If Azerbaycan closes of escape route from Lacin the Armenians will probably request a humanitarian corridor or such.

So I think it is necessary to control Lacin so no additional supply gets through, but retreat is allowed.
 

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While looking at it's size and speed I think It is most probably MAM-L. As @Combat-Master speculated earlier it could be a pre-calculated route to the target before the bomb picks the laser and goes into a terminal mode. That capability needs GPS/INS and laser guidance which is in MAM-L. With the newest improvements that were made some time ago over the initial production MAM-L GPS and INS were added as an option of guidance along with extended range of up to 14km, different warhead and fuse types. I am curious what would MAM-L Block II bring to the table but that is a topic for another thread.
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It could also be MEMS-IMU, like Cirit for instance. Forgot about MEMS-IMU :) . In that regard standard MAM-L may be equipped with MEMS-IMU and can calculate distance flown towards target from launch and go into terminal SAL mode.
 

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Whats the result of the meeting in washington btw?
 

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Looks like Armenian forces are reinfoced enough to put counter attack, maybe its better for Azerbaijan to use its quantitative advantage and open more fronts to disperse the Armenian defenses.
 

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