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Israel is helping Azeri soldiers recover from their injury ;

Israeli doctors restore sight for Azeri soldiers hurt in war with Armenia​

The doctors primarily operated in the field of oculoplasty and carried out procedures such as eye socket restoration and eyelid surgery.
Members of the Israeli delegation to help wounded Azeri soldiers regain their sight. (photo credit: DR. YISHAY FALICK)


Members of the Israeli delegation to help wounded Azeri soldiers regain their sight.

The Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan might be over for now, but the scars of the war are still evident on many of the soldiers who participated in the battles.

For 150 Azeri soldiers, some of these scars have begun to heal, thanks to a special humanitarian delegation of Israeli medical workers.

With funding provided by Azeri charitable foundation YAŞAT, the delegation was brought to Baku on a private plane, due to the closing of Ben-Gurion Airport.

The doctors primarily operated in the field of oculoplasty (plastic surgery for the eyes) and carried out procedures such as eye socket restoration, eyelid surgery, prosthetic eyes and more.

"The young soldiers we met sustained terrible injuries – most were unable to leave the house due to facial deformities," said Dr. Yishay Falick, CEO of Jerusalem's Misgav Ladach Hospital, who led the delegation.

The delegation said it worked tirelessly to help restore sight to the wounded soldiers - or at least return to a normal routine when restoring sight was impossible.

One soldier had to undergo several hours of surgery to restore his sight after his eyes were badly damaged by an exploding shell. Another soldier had to receive retinal repair surgery and an artificial corneal transplant, with the eye surface needing to be repaired with stem cells and a placental membrane, after the eye was burned by an explosion.

"To give someone the opportunity to see the world again is an extraordinary feeling,” said Falick.

“I am proud to be part of an Israeli medical system capable of running humanitarian missions – even during a most complex period," he said. "I'm proud of all the members of the delegation who came here to help these young people with serious injuries to recover. This is a very beautiful expression of the Israeli volunteer spirit."

 

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So Armenia still has 1600 soldiers missing? Plus they admitted about a bit over 4000 killed and over 9000 wounded.

Just to put it into perspective: Armenia has a population of 3 million people- France a population of 66 million and the USA- 335 million.

Just imagine France losing 90 000 soldiers and have another 35 000 missing and 200 000 wounded. Or the USA having 450 000 killed, 175 000 missing and 1 000 000 wounded.
And all that in 44 days while being on the defense and holding all the key positions on the battle field with 25 years to dig in.

And still most Armenians want to fight and believe that were winning the war but some traitor betrayed them. 😏

Armenians are too fanatical for their dreams of Greater Armenia.

They lost big time. They should thank Russia for saving their asses from being annilated.

Still have not learnt their lesson as they want to restart the war again.
 

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So Armenia still has 1600 soldiers missing? Plus they admitted about a bit over 4000 killed and over 9000 wounded.

Just to put it into perspective: Armenia has a population of 3 million people- France a population of 66 million and the USA- 335 million.

Just imagine France losing 90 000 soldiers and have another 35 000 missing and 200 000 wounded. Or the USA having 450 000 killed, 175 000 missing and 1 000 000 wounded.
And all that in 44 days while being on the defense and holding all the key positions on the battle field with 25 years to dig in.

And still most Armenians want to fight and believe that were winning the war but some traitor betrayed them. 😏
The cost of this war will be repayed over the course of decades. You cant just start nationbuilding after losing so many you men. Az can safely breath for the next 30 years
 

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The cost of this war will be repayed over the course of decades. You cant just start nationbuilding after losing so many you men. Az can safely breath for the next 30 years


Their losses are big considering how short the war was but not really enough to affect their demographics in such a catastrophic way that you imagine. Even for a country like Armenia 4-5-6k dead is just like 0.4% of their male population which is not that much. Even if not all males are able to carry a weapon due to their age it still won’t be more than 1% of those who can carry a weapon. They have a big diaspora that is more fanatical than the mainland Armenians so they won’t run out of people ready to fight anytime soon.

As for the lost weaponry- Russians and even Iranians are ready to resupply them with weaponry free of charge so don’t worry- soon they will be ready to fight again.

This is why Azerbaijan and Turkey must not lose any time and have to increase the cooperation between each other even more- Azerbaijan should be supplied with more modern weaponry, Turkish Military presence in Azerbaijan must be increased, more and more Azerbaijani soldiers and commanders should be getting trained in joint exercises etc. Even if a new war doesn’t start it will be good to have Turkish Military presence on the doorsteps of Northern Caucasus. 😉
 

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So Armenia still has 1600 soldiers missing? Plus they admitted about a bit over 4000 killed and over 9000 wounded.

Just to put it into perspective: Armenia has a population of 3 million people- France a population of 66 million and the USA- 335 million.

Just imagine France losing 90 000 soldiers and have another 35 000 missing and 200 000 wounded. Or the USA having 450 000 killed, 175 000 missing and 1 000 000 wounded.
And all that in 44 days while being on the defense and holding all the key positions on the battle field with 25 years to dig in.

And still most Armenians want to fight and believe that were winning the war but some traitor betrayed them. 😏

When you consider the terrain, its amazing how easily armenia was defeated.
 

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When you consider the terrain, its amazing how easily armenia was defeated.

The main focus of operation was the south,a mostly flat terrain where the Armenians,harassed by drones could hardly hold their positions. Azeri forces were bogged down in the north,a much mountainous terrain where those defending had the upper hands.

Azerbaijan was lucky enough Armenia surrendered otherwise they would have to attack their well defended positions in a mountainous terrain,lot of gorges prone to ambushes etc... Azerbaijan could still have won but with far more casualties. Not to add the winter and snowy conditions that followed few days/weeks after the Armenian surrender.
 

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So Armenia still has 1600 soldiers missing? Plus they admitted about a bit over 4000 killed and over 9000 wounded.

Just to put it into perspective: Armenia has a population of 3 million people- France a population of 66 million and the USA- 335 million.

Just imagine France losing 90 000 soldiers and have another 35 000 missing and 200 000 wounded. Or the USA having 450 000 killed, 175 000 missing and 1 000 000 wounded.
And all that in 44 days while being on the defense and holding all the key positions on the battle field with 25 years to dig in.

And still most Armenians want to fight and believe that were winning the war but some traitor betrayed them. 😏

The ratio of dead to injured is quite appalling. This proves the Armenian had poor medevac and medical capabilities. I've seen injured soldiers being thrown into cars and ambulances with little to no care,many dying on their way to the hospital. (Those that were lucky enough to be evacuated.)
 

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The main focus of operation was the south,a mostly flat terrain where the Armenians,harassed by drones could hardly hold their positions. Azeri forces were bogged down in the north,a much mountainous terrain where those defending had the upper hands.

Azerbaijan was lucky enough Armenia surrendered otherwise they would have to attack their well defended positions in a mountainous terrain,lot of gorges prone to ambushes etc... Azerbaijan could still have won but with far more casualties. Not to add the winter and snowy conditions that followed few days/weeks after the Armenian surrender.
Well i dont completely agree though, its true the Armenians had defending position in difficult terrain but their supplies were pretty much depleted, moral lost and Azerbaijan had air superiority.
I'd say it was Armenians who were lucky that Russia stepped in to save them, they were on the verge of collapse after Shusha fell, Khankendi was being besieged if you remember.
I'd give the Armenians maximum one more week until complete destruction if it wasnt for the ceasefire.
 

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The main focus of operation was the south,a mostly flat terrain where the Armenians,harassed by drones could hardly hold their positions. Azeri forces were bogged down in the north,a much mountainous terrain where those defending had the upper hands.

Azerbaijan was lucky enough Armenia surrendered otherwise they would have to attack their well defended positions in a mountainous terrain,lot of gorges prone to ambushes etc... Azerbaijan could still have won but with far more casualties. Not to add the winter and snowy conditions that followed few days/weeks after the Armenian surrender.

The Armenians were defeated and close to collapse - even in more difficult terrain they would only be able to offer sporadic resistance.
 

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The main focus of operation was the south,a mostly flat terrain where the Armenians,harassed by drones could hardly hold their positions. Azeri forces were bogged down in the north,a much mountainous terrain where those defending had the upper hands.

Azerbaijan was lucky enough Armenia surrendered otherwise they would have to attack their well defended positions in a mountainous terrain,lot of gorges prone to ambushes etc... Azerbaijan could still have won but with far more casualties. Not to add the winter and snowy conditions that followed few days/weeks after the Armenian surrender.
I agree that Azerbaijan would suffer more casualties then before , but you have to take a closer look to Armenian losses. I am not talking about Armour or Air defence losses , i mean human cost for resuming the war. And for what ? Political situation was and still is delicate thing Armenia. If they continue the war i believe Armenian Military would stage a coup and overthrow Pashingyan for good. You have to factor all these angles before reaching a conclusion about the recent conflict. Armenia made a right call to consede to Azerbaijan.
 

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Is Azeri troop personal equipment not so good or is that just me?
Yes you are right. There is a huge gap in terms of personal equipment among units and also lack of standardization. You can see special units equipped with Carinthia (top brand) winter jackets and such equipped with low quality ones. I also think that there is a problem with the deliveries of protection equipment like helmets to special units as I couldn't see standardization there. There were also very good equipped units. For me the problem there could be that some units are favored more than others and the deliveries of quality equipment is either in small quantities or to slow in order to reach all. When it comes to the equipment of conscripts it is not to bad but of course we would want to see more and better. In Turkey there was also a big problem with standardization and personal equipment even among the professional units. Thank God the logistics department took some very needed and important steps in terms of improvement and we see wonderful results. Turkey have very good ballistic protection manufacturers and I think we could assist Azerbaijan in that field. Also top brand like OpsCore have a factory in Turkey.
 

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Is Azeri troop personal equipment not so good or is that just me?

Depends, SOF units of Azerbaijan are the best equipped and trained in the region, even conscripts which might look like have cheaper gear have lvl 3 protection with plates, which is pretty rare for any military with conscription, I would say overall personal equipment could be better but still best in the region.
 

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Azerbaijani Army to hold operational-tactical exercises

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The exercises that will be held under the leadership of the Minister of Defense
involve up to 10,000 military personnel,
up to 100 tanks and other armored vehicles,
up to 200 missiles and artillery systems of various caliber,
multiple launch rocket systems, and mortars,
up to 30 military aviation assets,
as well as unmanned aerial vehicles for various purposes.

In the exercises to be held in a mountain-wooded area with difficult terrain,
the main attention considering the combat experience gained during the Patriotic war
will be focused on controlling troops,
bringing them into the state of combat readiness and regrouping,
as well as on improving combat coordination and interoperability
between the Army Corps, Rocket and Artillery Troops, aviation and Special Forces.

During the exercises, which will last until March 18,
the troops will fulfill tasks to fight
against terrorist detachments (groups),
in particular, illegal armed formations,
and to conduct counter-terrorism operations.
 

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The main focus of operation was the south,a mostly flat terrain where the Armenians,harassed by drones could hardly hold their positions. Azeri forces were bogged down in the north,a much mountainous terrain where those defending had the upper hands.

Azerbaijan was lucky enough Armenia surrendered otherwise they would have to attack their well defended positions in a mountainous terrain,lot of gorges prone to ambushes etc... Azerbaijan could still have won but with far more casualties. Not to add the winter and snowy conditions that followed few days/weeks after the Armenian surrender.

Armenia is the lucky one as Russia came and saved their skins.

Azerbaijans tactic of attacking the north worked as it distracted the Armenians from sending troops to the south.
 

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The ratio of dead to injured is quite appalling. This proves the Armenian had poor medevac and medical capabilities. I've seen injured soldiers being thrown into cars and ambulances with little to no care,many dying on their way to the hospital. (Those that were lucky enough to be evacuated.)

Shows once again the Armenians had no capability in fighting a war thinking either russia will save us or help us or thinking it will be like the early 90s.

Armenians underestimated the Azerbaijani resolve of taking their lands back.

Azerbaijanis here remind me of the French. French lost alsace to the Germans. Decades the French have not forgotten it and constantly reminded themselves of getting revenge while preparing it to take it back in which they did after Ww1 when they became victors.

The Germans underestimated France believing France would easily fall like the last time. Germans like the Armenians were wrong big time.
 
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