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The americans can, actually they dont even nees boots of the ground from preventing it, in fact, they are already preventing it.
Agreed on the theory tbh
I really wanna quote Senator Graham when he recently said: "The American people made a great investment, we only spent 5% of our normal military spending on Ukraine and in return we destroyed half of Russian army, crippled their economy and above all, it was achieved without losing one American soldier"

Americans, as the current dominant superpower, still possess a number of cards that may be used to threaten Azerbaijan especially when the Presidential elections are near and the votes of the Armenian diaspora become more crucial than ever in the close race against the republicans
 

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Azerbaijan terms for peace treaty. 100 billion reparations for 30 years of occupation or the Zangezur corridor and land around the Goyce Lake.
 

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Bruh, Armenia need to mortgage itself in order to pay 100 billions.
 

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Another important lesson not even lobbying stopped Military might.

As long as you have the capabilities not even lobbying can stop you.

The Armenian lobby is in disarray.
 

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Another important lesson not even lobbying stopped Military might.

As long as you have the capabilities not even lobbying can stop you.

The Armenian lobby is in disarray.
Its one thing operating in your internationally recognized borders, its another going for abroad because thats what legitimizes counter measures against azerbaijan which they are eager to use but have to wait for the opportunity.
 

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Azerbaijan terms for peace treaty. 100 billion reparations for 30 years of occupation or the Zangezur corridor and land around the Goyce Lake.
Armenia will never agree to either terms
In fact, I see no need for Armenia to sign a peace treaty with Azerbaijan in the first place
Azerbaijan got its land back and that is it..... any more and the Armenians will be losing their own lands which I dont see happening with Iran, Russia, Europe, and the USA backing them
 

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The idea that he can be such a failure and still remain in power is kind of ridiculous. This guy pashinyan with his retarded policies and complete inability to read the geopolitical situation ran his country off a cliff.

Before 2020 war he had Armenians hyped on a big powerful armenian military was going to take land from Azerbaijan and that now is the time to move the genocide agenda towards making the world believe eastern Turkiye belongs to armenia.

Not only is he a failure, but he's slimy. Nothing he says or does is honest. Potentially will go down as this guy who buried armenia.

The Armenians if they don't come to their senses are going to wake up one day and Russia owns them again. They are lashing out at everyone with out realising the dangers of destroying relations, especially with Russia. Without Russia they could have not occupied Azerbaijani land for the past 30 years. Without Russia the first war wouldn't have ended in 44 days and without Russia they couldn't drag the situation out.

And Armenians need to understand no one likes them at a geopolitical level, they only like the idea that they can be used against the Turks. If they couldnt be used against the Turks at an international level armenia is worthless.
 

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I'm all for the Turkic Union but becoming a "global power" because of it? The combined GDP of the countries in the post is less than $400billions(half of it's from Kazakhstan). Even in our poor economical situation, we're about to break $1 trillion mark next year. We should keep things in perspective before making extraordinary claims.
 
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Only the US and China in the next decade can be called "global power", period.

A Turkic Union that connects Central Asian states over the Caspian with Azerbaijan and over Zengezur with Türkiye would become a major energy player in the global market.
Go figure why Russia and Iran are against a pipeline through the Caspian Sea, for sure not for environmental issues as they always claim.
 

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Global power or otherwise, it would be prudent for turkish nations to come together in union.

Have outside blocs have to deal with us collectively instead of individually
 

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Global power or otherwise, it would be prudent for turkish nations to come together in union.

Have outside blocs have to deal with us collectively instead of individually

Its really a matter of survival. Today the EU was rushing to denounce Azerbaijan liberating her land, tomorrow maybe they send an EU army. Only way to protect ourselves from these problems is to unite.
 

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Azerbaijan terms for peace treaty. 100 billion reparations for 30 years of occupation or the Zangezur corridor and land around the Goyce Lake.
I get that this is part trolling, part pushing towards trying to obtain the Zangezur corridor in other ways but 100 billion is making it way too obvious. Azerbaijan and Turkey run the risk of making Armenia realize how much the two countries want that corridor and using it as a geopolitical trump card against both. Risky play.
 

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Its really a matter of survival. Today the EU was rushing to denounce Azerbaijan liberating her land, tomorrow maybe they send an EU army. Only way to protect ourselves from these problems is to unite.
EU speak for more than twenty Years about Building their own Army and coul not go any step ahead.

BTW: We should never underestimate our Enemies and Prepare for this Kind of Scenario.
 

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EU speak for more than twenty Years about Building their own Army and coul not go any step ahead.

BTW: We should never underestimate our Enemies and Prepare for this Kind of Scenario.

True, buts its obvious which direction they want to take it in. And if ever such a thing succeeds, expect the EU to become our biggest enemy. The EU already undermines us in our own backyard at almost every opportunity, Cyprus will never be resolved via discussions, its been 50 years and no matter how many times the greeks vote against peace they are constantly rewarded by the Europeans.

Lets not get caught sleeping, lets all put our ego's aside and understand that unity is about survival, its not about whose the leader or whose the strongest or whose the most important. Its about securing our combined sovereignty and our dignity.

The UK has its anglo-american world and below it the commonwealth. The Europeans are building their EU. China is 1.2 billion and India is likewise a colossal state. In order for us to survive the coming world we need our own bloc. In an ideal world it will be Turkic nations first, then to bring Muslim majority nations and after it 3rd party friendly nations of the world.

But its critical we bring our peoples together, no one is going to fight for us or defend us. All this ummah bullshit is entirely bullshit unless its us Turks bringing the army. We watch a global dehumanisation campaign being conducted against us and no one outside of us speaks against it. Only we can do for ourselves and truth be told we are more then enough to solve all our own problems.


Armenians fell pray to these western tricks and as much as i would love for the Armenians to wake up and understand that their best bet to peace and prosperity is to unite with the Turks. If only they could remember how good they had before the troubles were instigated. But i do not see it happening. So Turks must be eternally vigilant to this hostile and toxic entity, who make it their lives work to relentlessly attack and dehumanise everything Turkish. Disney creates a series about Ataturk and they want to get it shut down. Turks hold a cultural event in America they move to protest it and portray every single Turks as evil. We help Somalia, they push bullshit like Turks committing Tigray genocide. The Armenians unfortunately are gone, they will keep fighting with us until they have no power left to fight.
 

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Armenia will never agree to either terms
In fact, I see no need for Armenia to sign a peace treaty with Azerbaijan in the first place
Azerbaijan got its land back and that is it..... any more and the Armenians will be losing their own lands which I dont see happening with Iran, Russia, Europe, and the USA backing them

If Turkey & Azerbaijan want to create a corridor then rest assured that US, France, Russia & Iran will all join forces against Turkey.

The only way I can see Zangezur corridor being taken by Azerbaijan is if Putin agree's to it but I am skeptical.

This current situation is good for Putin because he wants Armenia to be in chaos so he can remove Pasinyan from power & also to gain leverage with the Western Powers over sanctions.

"Oh you want me to help Christians in Armenia?" Well then remove "x,y,z sanction" for Russia

Make no mistake. Despite the Ukraine war the West & Russia still have agreements & obligations with each other.

The West supported Russia & were the ones who allowed for Putin to rise in the first place. Same West supported Soviet Union over China in the 60s until Nixon (One of the Smartest US presidents) stepped in & gave support to China instead.

Neither Russia or the West can are reliable & both use Iran as their lapdog against any Turkic or Sunni unification.
 

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Russia invaded Georgia when Georgia attacked the unrecognized republic of South Ossetia and sent “peacekeeping troops” there, and also sent troops into Abkhazia, also an unrecognized republic, wanting to protect it from genocide.
Russia had dual allied relations with Armenia: 1) separately with Armenia, 2) separately within the CSTO.
So sign a security treaty with Russia, because Russia will be an unwavering guarantor of your security.
 
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