Bakamla drives Chinese coast guard vessel off North Natuna waters

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A Chinese coast guard ship was detected by Bakamla patrol ship KN Nipah 321 through an automatic identification system at around 10:00 a.m. local time on Saturday. (Courtesy of Bakamla/--) 0 SHARES The Indonesian Maritime Security Agency (Bakamla) has driven off a Chinese coast guard vessel that entered Indonesia's exclusive economic zone (EEZ) in the North Natuna Sea near Riau Islands without authorization. The vessel, Chinese coast guard ship 5204, was detected by Bakamla patrol ship KN Nipah 321 through an automatic identification system at around 10:00 a.m. local time on Saturday. According to the agency, the Chinese ship insisted that it had the right to patrol around the so-called nine-dash line – China’s geographic expression in the South China Sea that denotes China’s traditional fishing grounds. One of the nine dashes slices through waters north of the Natuna Islands. “Bakamla is currently coordinating with the Office of the Coordinating Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister and the Foreign Ministry regarding the matter,” the agency reported through its written statement on Sunday. KN Nipah 321 is one of the patrol ships Bakamla deployed for Operation Cegah Tangkal (Prevent and Repel) over the western maritime zone. The operation started on Sept. 4 and is set to continue until November. “The main purpose of this operation is to guarantee sea security in each prioritized maritime zone,” Bakamla chief Vice Adm. Aan Kurnia said earlier this month as quoted by kompas.com. In 2016, an international tribunal dismissed the nine-dash line as legally baseless. In addition, the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) also dismissed China’s nine-dash line and it granted Indonesia sovereign rights to explore and exploit natural resources in its EEZ.

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recently watch a video about the recent radio conversation between the two Coast Guards, it appears the Chinese able to communicate in Indonesian while we communicate with them in English.
 

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IMO you can interfere with the vessels which does economic-research operations in the EEZ, not the ships which is passing freely or resting without any economic operation.
Was there any chinese or indonesian fishermen which were warned by the counter side ?
Guess we need more details regarding to incident but my bet goes on Chinese CG has interfered with Indonesian fishermen and Bakamla has responded.
 

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IMO you can interfere with the vessels which does economic-research operations in the EEZ, not the ships which is passing freely or resting without any economic operation.
Was there any chinese or indonesian fishermen which were warned by the counter side ?
Guess we need more details regarding to incident but my bet goes on Chinese CG has interfered with Indonesian fishermen and Bakamla has responded.

I think the Chinese will use the Coast Guard to stake claims, and do that many times, and then allow their fisherman to enter these waters. So it is important to be persistent in rejecting their claim, and I would think it would be a very good idea for Indonesia to have smart Buoys in the area. Many, and even some that are sunk to the bottom of the sea.
 

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I think the Chinese will use the Coast Guard to stake claims, and do that many times, and then allow their fisherman to enter these waters. So it is important to be persistent in rejecting their claim, and I would think it would be a very good idea for Indonesia to have smart Buoys in the area. Many, and even some that are sunk to the bottom of the sea.
CG ships usually roams around when there are fishery boats. Without anything such they will end up exchanging radio messages claiming the area is their EEZ, nothing further like "forcibly pushing the other out of the EEZ".
And surely for Indonesia it is needed and important to act such.

EEZ by UNCLOS:
These extend 200 nautical miles (370 kilometres; 230 miles) from the baseline. Within this area, the coastal nation has sole exploitation rights over all natural resources. In casual use, the term may include the territorial sea and even the continental shelf. The EEZs were introduced to halt the increasingly heated clashes over fishing rights, although oil was also becoming important. The success of an offshore oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico in 1947 was soon repeated elsewhere in the world, and by 1970 it was technically feasible to operate in waters 4,000 metres deep. Foreign nations have the freedom of navigation and overflight, subject to the regulation of the coastal states. Foreign states may also lay submarine pipes and cables.
 
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Indonesia to beef up patrols after China coastguard raises suspicion


JAKARTA: Indonesia will increase maritime security operations near some of its islands in the South China Sea after a Chinese coastguard vessel was spotted nearby, raising suspicions about its intentions, a senior security official said on Tuesday (Sep 15).

The vessel entered Indonesia's 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone off the northern Natuna islands on Saturday and left on Monday after radio challenges over jurisdiction, Aan Kurnia, chief of the maritime security agency Bakamla, told Reuters.


Under international law, innocent passage is permitted through another country's exclusive economic zone, but Aan said the vessel was lingering too long.

"Because this one floated, then went circling, we became suspicious, we approached it and learned that it was a Chinese coastguard vessel," he said, adding the navy and coastguard would boost operations in the area.

Wang Wenbin, China's foreign ministry spokesman, said the ship was undertaking "normal patrol duties in waters under Chinese jurisdiction".

"China's rights and interests in the relevant waters in the South China Sea are clear," Wang told a news conference.


Indonesia renamed the northern reaches of its exclusive economic zone in 2017 as the North Natuna Sea, pushing back against China's maritime territorial ambitions.

While China has made no claim to islands, the presence of its coastguard nearly 2,000km off its mainland has concerned Indonesia, after numerous encounters between Chinese vessels in the exclusive economic zones of Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam, which disrupted fishing and energy activities.

A weeks-long standoff occurred 10 months ago when a Chinese coastguard vessel and accompanying fishing boats entered the northern Natuna Sea, prompting Indonesia to send fighter jets and mobilise its own fishermen.

READ: Indonesia deploys 4 additional warships to Natuna amid standoff with Chinese vessels

China's coastguard often operates alongside fishing boats described by experts as state-backed militia.

The "nine-dash line" on Chinese maps denoting its vast maritime claims includes waters off the Natuna islands. An international arbitration panel in 2016 invalidated that line.

Indonesia's foreign ministry spokesman Teuku Faizasyah reiterated that Jakarta does not recognise the line.
 

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Indonesia to beef up patrols after China coastguard raises suspicion


JAKARTA: Indonesia will increase maritime security operations near some of its islands in the South China Sea after a Chinese coastguard vessel was spotted nearby, raising suspicions about its intentions, a senior security official said on Tuesday (Sep 15).

The vessel entered Indonesia's 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone off the northern Natuna islands on Saturday and left on Monday after radio challenges over jurisdiction, Aan Kurnia, chief of the maritime security agency Bakamla, told Reuters.


Under international law, innocent passage is permitted through another country's exclusive economic zone, but Aan said the vessel was lingering too long.

"Because this one floated, then went circling, we became suspicious, we approached it and learned that it was a Chinese coastguard vessel," he said, adding the navy and coastguard would boost operations in the area.

Wang Wenbin, China's foreign ministry spokesman, said the ship was undertaking "normal patrol duties in waters under Chinese jurisdiction".

"China's rights and interests in the relevant waters in the South China Sea are clear," Wang told a news conference.


Indonesia renamed the northern reaches of its exclusive economic zone in 2017 as the North Natuna Sea, pushing back against China's maritime territorial ambitions.

While China has made no claim to islands, the presence of its coastguard nearly 2,000km off its mainland has concerned Indonesia, after numerous encounters between Chinese vessels in the exclusive economic zones of Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam, which disrupted fishing and energy activities.

A weeks-long standoff occurred 10 months ago when a Chinese coastguard vessel and accompanying fishing boats entered the northern Natuna Sea, prompting Indonesia to send fighter jets and mobilise its own fishermen.

READ: Indonesia deploys 4 additional warships to Natuna amid standoff with Chinese vessels

China's coastguard often operates alongside fishing boats described by experts as state-backed militia.

The "nine-dash line" on Chinese maps denoting its vast maritime claims includes waters off the Natuna islands. An international arbitration panel in 2016 invalidated that line.

Indonesia's foreign ministry spokesman Teuku Faizasyah reiterated that Jakarta does not recognise the line.


I think Indonesia needs to find a surveillance system that's sustainable. The Chinese will stay away and come back some other time.

But I think the Chinese are satisfied if they manage to make Indonesia waste time and money on patroling that area.

Standard chinese tactics.

Smart BUOYS is the way to go, if someone here can pass that to Indonesian Navy it'll save them a lot of fuel cost.
 

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I think Indonesia needs to find a surveillance system that's sustainable. The Chinese will stay away and come back some other time.

But I think the Chinese are satisfied if they manage to make Indonesia waste time and money on patroling that area.

Standard chinese tactics.

Smart BUOYS is the way to go, if someone here can pass that to Indonesian Navy it'll save them a lot of fuel cost.
Indonesia could easily invest in smart buoys and any company goes for something such would earn good money, beside of using for securing EEZ, it can also help for early tsunami warning systems, controlling illegal fishing and any other illegal activity* taking place in their inland waters. i know there are some start-up companies who tries to do that but at the same, i get the sense of neither state nor army is interested in those.
*human trafficking, drug traffics, illegal diving at protected areas.

@#comcom I have just realized both Bakamla and CG has the same jurisdiction.
Coastal patrol, marine border protection, marine search and rescue , as stated in wikipedia is common in both as specialist jurisdiction.
Why not merging those two? Is Bakamla responsible with SAR?

*Both looks responsible with SAR in the same areas, doesn't it cause a confusion while their functions and operation areas are overlapping,

Which one has SAR aircrafts /allowed for heavy weapons (such as large caliber cannons) on ships?
 
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I think the benefits outweight any other downsides.


Danish research with European union means for developing smart buoys. I think it's necessary to make a working paper on their uses on military scale before any investment might take place.


I wrote to this company asking if they would look into SMART Buoy for TSK. :)

Just to show who else have an interest in this field:
Chinese....
 
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