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[Iskander]

It is also a counterweight in the Mediterranean to France, Greece/Cyprus and Egypt. Neither Spain nor Italy want or tolerate France having or gaining too much power in the Mediterranean through its proxies such as Greece/Cyprus & Egypt. That is why they support Turkey pragmatically, e.g. through armaments cooperation or other Support Projects such as Navantia & Co and Leonardo with Italy in the near future.

Yes, this situation is especially evident today.

Meanwhile, it is also stated that Erdoğan will go to Italy in 2 weeks.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1907164507748676091

It can happen , the foult is at Mali side , Algeria army is among top 20 most powerfup militaries in world .

 

[TR_123456]

Where is it down recently?

Algerian Armed Forces

defencehub.live

Last post.

 

[TR_123456]

It is also not nice to make enemies of Algeria. They have a competent army, they can shoot down drones easily. They are going to receive Su57 this year. It is a country we should build better relations with.

Whats it got to do with us that you make such a statement?
We have good relations with Algeria.

 

[uçuyorum]

Whats it got to do with us that you make such a statement?
We have good relations with Algeria.

Incidents like this dont help

 

[TR_123456]

Incidents like this dont help

Again,it has nothing to do with us.
What kind of logic do you use,i wonder?
So,Russia blamed us for all the destruction by the TB-2 in Ukraine?
Come on man,you are smarter then this.

 

[Chakib larbi]

Incidents like this dont help

Turkish-Algerian relations are very strong at all levels, and an incident like this has nothing to do with the two countries...Rather, it is a geopolitical dispute between Mali and Algeria...

In the end , Turkey is a manufacturer and seller of weapons, and even Algeria is a buyer of Turkish drones and It is not surprising that she would use them one day against these Malians.

 

[Ryder]

If you sell it to any Tom Dick and Harry to make a quick buck without accompanying EW set up. If you sell it to countries that don't know how to use it properly and if they are used in airspace where modern AD are present, what do you expect?

These are lethargic, cumbersome, slow and comparatively large birds. They are not stealthy. They should be used with stand off ammo. Not pushed in to the heart of fighting, unless you have air dominance in the skies.

They are not that cheap either.
Also they are not replacement of a full fledged fighter jet.
If used in accordance with what it can and can not do, it is a great asset to have. But you should always be aware of it's shortcomings.

Thank you people need realise there is no such thing as a God weapon or a wonder weapon that can beat anything.

Every weapon system has its short comings. With the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Alot of Western and Russian tank fanboys were in cope mode about the destruction of their favourite tanks.

Nothing is invincible every weapon system has its advantages and disadvantages. They also have their short comings.1 weapon system would be state of the art until its get overtaken or beaten by another. That same one that beaten the system will also get beaten.

 

[Tuvan]

If you sell it to any Tom Dick and Harry to make a quick buck without accompanying EW set up. If you sell it to countries that don't know how to use it properly and if they are used in airspace where modern AD are present, what do you expect?

These are lethargic, cumbersome, slow and comparatively large birds. They are not stealthy. They should be used with stand off ammo. Not pushed in to the heart of fighting, unless you have air dominance in the skies.

They are not that cheap either.
Also they are not replacement of a full fledged fighter jet.
If used in accordance with what it can and can not do, it is a great asset to have. But you should always be aware of it's shortcomings.

There needs to be a R&D unit to actively research potential threats and develops prototypes to test it against active platforms. As an example, we should have had already developed Iranian Missile 358 style missile and tested against TB2, Akinci, T129 and so on. Baykar UAVs are one of the most used in the world thus far more likely to be victim of new threats. It could be PR nightmare if they start getting shot down constantly. OPFOR needs to be taken seriously.

 

[Yasar_TR]

There needs to be a R&D unit to actively research potential threats and develops prototypes to test it against active platforms. As an example, we should have had already developed Iranian Missile 358 style missile and tested against TB2, Akinci, T129 and so on. Baykar UAVs are one of the most used in the world thus far more likely to be victim of new threats. It could be PR nightmare if they start getting shot down constantly. OPFOR needs to be taken seriously.

Bro, no matter how much R&D you perform, an non-stealthy drone like TB2 and Akinci will always be prone to getting shot if they operate too low or in skies where AD systems are not suppressed or eliminated.

All the Hype about TB2 in the early days were thanks to :
1. Anka’s EW experience being applied to it (If you check the first TB2s were being shot easily, when Anka survived)
2. It exploited the weakness of Russian air defence systems as it was too small and too slow for it to be registered as a threat. (Even Temel Kotil uttered these very words in an interview). That is not the case anymore.
3. It was used in conjunction with Koral EW to overcome AD systems that tried to shoot it.

The flir it used to designate target acquisition can not operate above clouds. It needs Synthetic Aperture Radar to do that. Below cloud cover it is vulnerable. It relies on it’s EW capability to survive.

Akıncı is even bigger and is easier to spot. But with it’s 2 x 850HP PT6 engines, it should generate enough lift and power to operate at high enough altitudes to stay away from man pads and short range AD systems, and supply electrical energy to use it’s Aesa radar to target enemy assets from a stand off distance. Using the Aesa radar’s SAR capability to target long distance and below cloud enemy positions. With ground and other aerial communication local assets it should not need to be pushed in to battlefield itself. But nevertheless should be protected by KE or Anka-3.

 

[RMZN]

Bro, no matter how much R&D you perform, an non-stealthy drone like TB2 and Akinci will always be prone to getting shot if they operate too low or in skies where AD systems are not suppressed or eliminated.

All the Hype about TB2 in the early days were thanks to :
1. Anka’s EW experience being applied to it (If you check the first TB2s were being shot easily, when Anka survived)
2. It exploited the weakness of Russian air defence systems as it was too small and too slow for it to be registered as a threat. (Even Temel Kotil uttered these very words in an interview). That is not the case anymore.
3. It was used in conjunction with Koral EW to overcome AD systems that tried to shoot it.

The flir it used to designate target acquisition can not operate above clouds. It needs Synthetic Aperture Radar to do that. Below cloud cover it is vulnerable. It relies on it’s EW capability to survive.

Akıncı is even bigger and is easier to spot. But with it’s 2 x 850HP PT6 engines, it should generate enough lift and power to operate at high enough altitudes to stay away from man pads and short range AD systems, and supply electrical energy to use it’s Aesa radar to target enemy assets from a stand off distance. Using the Aesa radar’s SAR capability to target long distance and below cloud enemy positions. With ground and other aerial communication local assets it should not need to be pushed in to battlefield itself. But nevertheless should be protected by KE or Anka-3.

A countermeasures pod could prove useful for more expensive plattforms like the Akinci though. Kizilelma will need a countermeasures system as well, regardless of how stealthy it is.