Biden announces Indo-Pacific economic pact to counter China

[xizhimen]

VN is developing nation, we don't say we r rich like a "super power" CN, having 600 million Chinese earn less than 140 usd and staving on streets like in N.Korea cos CN banks are bankrupted

China is also a developing country and can you tell the difference between " disposable income" and average salary? how much do you make when you were a 3 years old baby?

 

[Viva_vietnamm]

China is also a developing country and can you tell the difference between " disposable income" and average salary? how much do you make when you were a 3 years old baby?

So stop barking "CN is super power nation", "CN is rich" or "China has the capabilities to kick them out of SCS (east VN sea), but she chose not to" etc.

CN is just a developing country and its army is useless and idiot and got hard slap from VN in 2014 conflict .

 

[xizhimen]

So stop barking "CN is super power nation", "CN is rich" or "China has the capabilities to kick them out of SCS (east VN sea), but she chose not to" etc.

CN is just a developing country and its army is useless and idiot and got hard slap from VN in 2014.

China never says she's a super power, it's the west claiming so to scare little buddies like Vietnam, and developing countries can also be an economic and industrial powerhouse.
What in 2014? I don't remember China lost any islands in SCS in recent years.

 

[Jagdflieger]

Go and ask him and ask CNN, why ask me ?? If CNN and Peter are wrong, then sue him and CNN for doing bad things and lying. Otherwhile, stop "protecting" CN like idiot Red guards.

Me? I am not the one that ridicules himself via posting such nonsense. You do that to yourself if you don't understand the respective issues and just post CNN garbage - it's all up to you.

 

[Jagdflieger]

VN is developing nation, we don't say we r rich like a "super power" CN, having 600 million Chinese earn less than 140 usd and staving on streets like in N.Korea cos CN banks are bankrupted

Again - those 600 million have a "DISPOSABLE INCOME" of US$ 140 - it has nothing to do with a direct income. Since many of these countryside and rural town people don't even have regular jobs - but work on their farmland and as such no "registered" income. Also usually a person below the age of 20 and those above 55 do not work but are pensioners or students. Not to mention kid raising mothers with not wanting to take jobs. But they are financially supported by the government, their own relatives and selling e.g. products from their farmland, or taxi service with their scooter, etc. etc. - that is not registered as an income. Many times my family and me travel to farms around Shanghai and buy farmland products (not cheap at all) - no one ever gave me a receipt nor did I ask for one.

So out of your 600 million - around 400 million are not even legible for a job - respectively income.

You want to know about a countries actual wealth go and check the GDP figures and keep in mind that in China this GDP is used in huge sums to support the rising of living standards - similar to Communist Vietnam - and totally different from e.g. Indonesia or Philippines were the government and rich couldn't be bothered about their own poor and additionally lack the GDP to do anything much about it anyway.

One can only compare China overall with e.g. the EU or Europe - look at the size, population and diverse infrastructure - even then China still dwarfs them.

You have a GDP/capita in Germany of US$ 51,000
You have a GDP/capita in Ireland of US$ 103,000
You have a GDP/capita in Romania of US$ 12,000
You have a GDP/capita in Poland of US$ 13,000
You have a GDP/capita in Bulgaria of US$ 8,000
You have a GDP/capita in Serbia of US$ 4,800

And China with 1,4 billion people can show a GDP/capita of US$ 14,000

Meaning e.g. Shanghai is on par with Ireland, the Eastern Sea-bound provinces are equal with Germany, whilst those in e.g. Gansu, Qinghai or parts of Sichuan are on par with Bulgaria and Serbia.
On average GDP/capita China is on par with Poland - and Poland is not regarded to be poor at all in Europe. Even though 17% of Poland's population is below the poverty world line of US$ 1,90 a day. And US$ 1,90 a day in Poland is equivalent to around US$ 8 a day in China - it's called buying power.

As such a "poverty stricken Chinese" can afford to buy 4 times the items a Polish poverty stricken person can afford.

 

[xizhimen]

Again - those 600 million have a "DISPOSABLE INCOME" of US$ 140 - it has nothing to do with a direct income. Since many of these countryside and rural town people don't even have regular jobs and as such no "registered" income. But they are financially supported by the government, their own relatives and selling e.g. products from their farmland, or taxi service with their scooter, etc. etc. - that is not registered as an income. Many times my family and me travel to farms around Shanghai and buy farmland products (not cheap at all) - no one ever gave me a receipt nor did I ask for one.

You want to know about a countries actual wealth go and check the GDP figures and keep in mind that in China this GDP is used in huge sums to support the rising of living standards - similar to Communist Vietnam - and totally different from e.g. Indonesia or Philippines were the government and rich couldn't be bothered about their own poor and additionally lack the GDP to do anything much about it anyway.

One can only compare China overall with e.g. the EU or Europe - look at the size, population and diverse infrastructure - even then China still dwarfs them.

You have a GDP/capita in Germany of US$ 51,000
You have a GDP/capita in Ireland of US$ 103,000
You have a GDP/capita in Romania of US$ 12,000
You have a GDP/capita in Poland of US$ 13,000
You have a GDP/capita in Bulgaria of US$ 8,000
You have a GDP/capita in Serbia of US$ 4,800

And China with 1,4 billion people can show a GDP/capita of US$ 14,000

Meaning e.g. Shanghai is on par with Ireland, the Eastern Sea-bound provinces are equal with Germany, whilst those in e.g. Gansu, Qinghai or parts of Sichuan are on par with Bulgaria and Serbia.
On average GDP/capita China is on par with Poland - and Poland is not regarded to be poor at all in Europe. Even though 17% of Poland's population is below the poverty world line of US$ 1,90 a day. And US$ 1,90 a day in Poland is equivalent to around US$ 8 a day in China - it's called buying power.

As such a "poverty stricken Chinese" can afford to buy 4 times the items a Polish poverty stricken person can afford.

See how fast China's GDP per capita grows year on year, almost 50% increase in only 5 years

Beijing's per capita GDP stays on top in China​

By DU JUAN | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2022-06-20 16:42

Beijing's per capita GDP exceeded $28,000 in 2021, up 40 percent over 2017, remaining at the top of all municipalities and provinces in China, according to a report released recently by the Beijing Municipal Bureau of Statistics.

Beijing's per capita GDP stays on top in China

Beijing's per capita GDP exceeded $28,000 in 2021, up 40 percent over 2017, remaining at the top of all municipalities and provinces in China, according to a report released recently by the Beijing Municipal Bureau of Statistics.

www.chinadaily.com.cn

 

[Nilgiri]

CN's banks are bankrupted due to US's sanction and bad CN's economy , 600 million chinese earn less than 140 usd per month, but our Red guards friends still forces us to believe CN is "super power"

There will now be the typical whataboutism versus Li Keiqiang unfortunate inconvenience.

CCP blah propaganda vs Li Keqiang is member of CCP.....which button to press?

A rational Chinese person (rare online in english speaking places) would pause.....but spambot types are predictably stuck on convenience, no matter what it undermines in the long run.

Short term safe space feelings....its the whole story of the red guard psyche and why Mao unleashed them on China for his personal convenience too.

Anyone can look up what Li Keqiang commented regarding Chinese GDP data reliability as well.

It's actually fairly interesting to see what he is saying recently too.

There is some kind of good cop bad cop routine and tussle going on politically increasingly.

 

[Manomed]

we got so many china number one bots In this forum I wonder how much do china pays them.

 

[Viva_vietnamm]

Me? I am not the one that ridicules himself via posting such nonsense. You do that to yourself if you don't understand the respective issues and just post CNN garbage - it's all up to you.

Ha, we all know thats CN red guards always say "CNN garbage, BBC garbage etc" cos Mao and Xi's paper is the only trusted source

Sorry bro, as the Mod, u should know that posting CNN, BBC news saying that CN's banks are bankrupted is not violating the forum rules

 

[Viva_vietnamm]

As such a "poverty stricken Chinese" can afford to buy 4 times the items a Polish poverty stricken person can afford.

Those "poverty stricken Chinese" can NOT afford to buy anything, even healthy food cos "Its not enough to rent a room in the Chinese cities" as Preimer Li admit .

In Poland, poor ppl may have free food, very low cost for house renting, but in CN, if u r poor, then u will starve like in N.Korea
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"The average per-capita annual income in China is 30,000 yuan (USD 4,193), but there are over 600 million people whose monthly income is barely 1,000 yuan (USD 140), not enough to rent a room in the Chinese cities," Li said while addressing his annual press conference here.

China has over 600 million poor with $140 monthly income: Premier Li Keqiang - CNBC TV18

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www.cnbctv18.com

 

[Viva_vietnamm]

There will now be the typical whataboutism versus Li Keiqiang unfortunate inconvenience.

CCP blah propaganda vs Li Keqiang is member of CCP.....which button to press?

A rational Chinese person (rare online in english speaking places) would pause.....but spambot types are predictably stuck on convenience, no matter what it undermines in the long run.

Short term safe space feelings....its the whole story of the red guard psyche and why Mao unleashed them on China for his personal convenience too.

Anyone can look up what Li Keqiang commented regarding Chinese GDP data reliability as well.

It's actually fairly interesting to see what he is saying recently too.

There is some kind of good cop bad cop routine and tussle going on politically increasingly.

Premier Li is a patriot, he knows CN's economy is in bad sharpe now, ( CN is losing in CN-US trade war, CN's banks are bankrupted due to the collapse of real estate companies like Evergrande, Ipad production line is fleeing to VN making more CNese jobless etc ) and he always try to tell the truth.....and Xi's red guards don't like it cos it make CN look "poor and weak " , not "rich and powerful" like what they want us to believe

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‘No time to lose’: Top Chinese official sounds alarm over economy​

China’s premier said in an emergency meeting Wednesday that the Chinese economy faces “grim challenges,” in an unusually stark warning that comes as coronavirus controls have paralyzed parts of the world’s second-largest economy.

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Premier Li Keqiang, along with other top officials, spoke to more than 100,000 representatives from provincial, city and county levels of government in a teleconference hosted by China’s cabinet, according to state media reports. Li called on local governments to help stabilize the economy, which he said was at risk of contracting during the second quarter.
Citing unforeseen factors such as continued outbreaks of the coronavirus and the war in Ukraine, Li said his chief goal was to ensure that the economy expands in the second quarter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/26/china-economy-covid-li-keqiang/

 

[xizhimen]

There will now be the typical whataboutism versus Li Keiqiang unfortunate inconvenience.

CCP blah propaganda vs Li Keqiang is member of CCP.....which button to press?

A rational Chinese person (rare online in english speaking places) would pause.....but spambot types are predictably stuck on convenience, no matter what it undermines in the long run.

Short term safe space feelings....its the whole story of the red guard psyche and why Mao unleashed them on China for his personal convenience too.

Anyone can look up what Li Keqiang commented regarding Chinese GDP data reliability as well.

It's actually fairly interesting to see what he is saying recently too.

There is some kind of good cop bad cop routine and tussle going on politically increasingly.

Do you know what "disposalbe income" means? Various global survey institutions issue China's salary surveys regularly but you choose to troll and you know you are just trolling.

 

[xizhimen]

we got so many china number one bots In this forum I wonder how much do china pays them.

Like how many? who are real trolls here? what this OP article is about and who started trolling and derailing in this thread?

 

[Viva_vietnamm]

Do you know what "disposalbe income" means? Various global survey institutions issue China's salary surveys regularly but you choose to troll and you know you are just trolling.

I think people don't wanna talk about poor ppl in CN if u don't keep lying "I haven't seen a single homeless person in China for many years already".

CN just a developing nation with 600 million starving ppl and CN's banks are bankrupted due to trade war and the collapse of real estate companies like Evergrande

 

[xizhimen]

I think people don't wanna talk about poor ppl in CN if u don't keep lying "I haven't seen a single homeless person in China for many years already".

I honestly didn't see any homeless people for years as I already stated, many foreign expats also failed to see one while living in China, I never said because I didn't see one thus they never exist in China, but they must be very rare if any. Go to check with anyone who really lived in China in recent years for confirmation.

 

[Viva_vietnamm]

I honestly didn't see any homeless people for years as I already stated, many foreign expats also failed to see one while living in China, I never said because I didn't see one thus they never exist in China, but they must be very rare if any. Go to check with anyone who really lived in China in recent years for confirmation.

Then ask Premier Li why he see 600 million starving ppl in CN. hes CN premier.

 

[xizhimen]

Then ask Premier Li why he see 600 million starving ppl in CN. hes CN premier.

He already said" disposable income" based on the whole Chinese population, China probably doesn't even have 600 million working population. "dispoable income" in US could be negative due to their high inflation.

 

[Jagdflieger]

Then ask Premier Li why he see 600 million starving ppl in CN. hes CN premier.

Where did Premier Li state: 600 million starving people?

Sorry but you are forwarding false statements again. (aka trolling) and consistently base your statements upon unsubstantiated Western Media reports by e.g. CNN

None of my stats is based on Chinese sources - but Western and international institutions, who's content you seem/prefer to ignore.
If you are just happy, via bashing China with inconclusive and unsubstantiated information - go ahead - but I will refrain from further discussion in such threads.

 

[Viva_vietnamm]

Where did Premier Li state: 600 million starving people?

Sorry but you are forwarding false statements again. (aka trolling) and consistently base your statements upon unsubstantiated Western Media reports by e.g. CNN

None of my stats is based on Chinese sources - but Western and international institutions, who's content you seem/prefer to ignore.
If you are just happy, via bashing China with inconclusive and unsubstantiated information - go ahead - but I will refrain from further discussion in such threads.

What food can they buy to survive in 1 month with just 140 usd per month ?? even in VN , we need at least 200 usd per month to survive.

 

[Viva_vietnamm]

He already said" disposable income" based on the whole Chinese population, China probably doesn't even have 600 million working population. "dispoable income" in US could be negative due to their high inflation.

Whatever, but they are starving when 140 usd per month is not enough to buy healthy food for 1 month, even if they r in VN.