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What does he mean?

Siper's anti-ballistic capability is years away.

Is it ? B2's first test has been made in 2023. It's already been 2 years and it will be delivered this year. We know they were working on ABM capability since B1. I wouldn't put my bet on "years away". It could be ready until we deliver launchers to possible customers. Who makes deals for untested (B3) systems ? That's an all other problem to talk about. Maybe when we make 1-2 tests on the capability.
 

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Is it ? B2's first test has been made in 2023. It's already been 2 years and it will be delivered this year. We know they were working on ABM capability since B1. I wouldn't put my bet on "years away". It could be ready until we deliver launchers to possible customers. Who makes deals for untested (B3) systems ? That's an all other problem to talk about. Maybe when we make 1-2 tests on the capability.
I think with abm capacity they mean a hit to kill ability with block 3 against short range and medium range ballistic missile while block 2 is maybe only good enough against tactical ballistic missiles although we don’t know the exact capacity of block 3 maybe exoatmospheric intercept
 

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I think with abm capacity they mean a hit to kill ability with block 3 against short range and medium range ballistic missile while block 2 is maybe only good enough against tactical ballistic missiles although we don’t know the exact capacity of block 3 maybe exoatmospheric intercept

Yes it is true but exoatmospheric intercept capability with B3 sounds unrealistic
 

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I’m almost certain the language is Vietnamese. Are they buying Cobra II?
 

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I’m almost certain the language is Vietnamese. Are they buying Cobra II?
I had the same thought, but from the vietnamese thread I could see one of the recent posts that the armed forces were visiting and looking at the local APC/IFV production. Which if I remember correct were based on Russian models.
 

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Spain is eyeing a new 6x6 program as a "stopgap" measure for the problematic 8x8 VCR Dragon while also possibly lowering the total 1000 number for Dragons. Turkish firms will possibly take part in the tender process. Indra and Otokar had signed a cooperation deal last week, and Indra also created a new JV with Edge in UAE.

 

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Spain is eyeing a new 6x6 program as a "stopgap" measure for the problematic 8x8 VCR Dragon while also possibly lowering the total 1000 number for Dragons. Turkish firms will possibly take part in the tender process. Indra and Otokar had signed a cooperation deal last week, and Indra also created a new JV with Edge in UAE.

They recently selected Iveco Super AV amphibious vehicle for their navy so i think the chances of having a third type of wheeled vehicles are slim tbh

 

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They recently selected Iveco Super AV amphibious vehicle for their navy so i think the chances of having a third type of wheeled vehicles are slim tbh

ACV is for the marines, not related.

And on that vein, there goes another potential customer for ZAHA. I hope we get to build more than 100 by the time production ends at this speed. What a waste of resources.
 

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“Türkiye is not included in the EU's $162 billion fund

— EU will not include US, UK and Turkish companies in its $162 billion defense fund.

— These countries will remain outside the fund unless they sign defense and security agreements with Brussels.”

If im to sign the mentioned agreements which eventually will put me and those countries as the military force(s) to protect them as they have stronger and ready militaries btw, why don’t I get a lump sump cash transfer directly from that fund beforehand?
Really Europe? Still giving me the stick and carrot to protect your geriatric welfare states?

I really like to see how long it will take them to produce weapon systems that have been lagging behind program for decades, or in some cases even does not exist.

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Leonardo and Baykar showed what needs to be done. Move around the fence.
 
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“Türkiye is not included in the EU's $162 billion fund

— EU will not include US, UK and Turkish companies in its $162 billion defense fund.

— These countries will remain outside the fund unless they sign defense and security agreements with Brussels.”

If im to sign the mentioned agreements which eventually will put me and those countries as the military force(s) to protect them as they have stronger and ready militaries, why don’t I get a lump sump cash transfer directly from that fund beforehand?
Really Europe? Still giving me the stick and carrot to protect your geriatric welfare states?

I really like to see how long it will take them to produce weapon systems that have been lagging behind program for decades, or in some cases even does not exist.

Na-ah
Leonardo and Baykar showed what needs to be done. Move around the fence.


Ther was a tweet about France drone program, i am going to search it. If they begin today it will ready in 2027. And it will be real and real expensive.
 

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Baykar might be bidding for Brazilian UCAV tender.

 

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Aircraft carrier is one other possibility and there are no claims for it exists but mine, but, they have been talking about a sibling to Juan Carlos I for more than a decade now. They were unable to fund it due to budgetary reasons in the past. A joint development would lower the cost of the program for us immensely.
"The Armada would have 2 new aircraft carriers, similar to the Juan Carlos I, but larger, between the next 5 and 10 years. General Staff Requirements at the end of the year."
Remains to be seen if they would go with their own design and F-35s or something joint with Turkey.

 

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I would guess that they are deploying atak. Selling would be to expensive compared to just buying AKINCI and for donation it’s to important only a lease would make sense.
 

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