TR Defence Exports & Updates

[Huelague]

Pakistan denied cancellation of Atak.

 

[kenny]

I think the t129s of the Philippines have not been sent yet.

 

[MADDOG]

Do any you guys know whether the T-129's arrived or not?

I think the t129s of the Philippines have not been sent yet.

Are they waiting for a cargo plane? The A400M may not be able to deliver it. It has got a max range of 4800nm. But regardless of any excuses, the Philippines ordered these helicopters. Thus they needed to be sent on time. I'm not believing a single word that comes out of Temel Kotil's mouth. This has happened way too many times. First it was Friday, then it magically became Saturday. Now it is Monday with their T-129's still sitting on TUSAS facilities. This is very embarrassing. And yes, I'm incredibly upset over TAI's inability to deliver stuff on time.

Rant over.

I hope they will be delivered soon.

 

[MADDOG]

I'm interested to find out what the problem is...

 

[Saithan]

Same here. Failing to deliver on time is a blow to trust.

I may even believe that they didn't get the export permit.

 

[MADDOG]

Same here. Failing to deliver on time is a blow to trust.

I may even believe that they didn't get the export permit.

I mean we did see the helicopters belonging to the Philippine Air Force. With their engines installed and everything. The PAF personnel test flew the same helicopters. They were pretty much ready for export. I really don't know what the issue is but I hope it's not from our side.

 

[Saithan]

I mean we did see the helicopters belonging to the Philippine Air Force. With their engines installed and everything. The PAF personnel test flew the same helicopters. They were pretty much ready for export. I really don't know what the issue is but I hope it's not from our side.

We can do all of that and still not have permission to export. Then what ?

 

[MADDOG]

We can do all of that and still not have permission to export. Then what ?

Then **** whoever was in charge of this whole Philipino T-129 "Raptor" program. Nothing else to add. We may have started the year strongly in terms of projects, but if we are unable to sell these ATAK's then it would be a huge blow to TUSAS. Y'know Turkish Aerospace is an interesting company. Sometimes they get everything right and act like Lockheed Martin, but sometimes stuff happens and they literally transform themselves into the Uganda Space Administration.

 

[Isa Khan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1480860416813195270

 

[Cabatli_TR]

SSIK meeting to be held today. I am expecting decision about I class and TTFAC.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1481165575342678018

 

[TheInsider]

There is news circulating that Morocco is in advanced talks to buy 7 FACs and 1 corvette from Türkiye.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Defense: Morocco negotiates with Turkey the purchase of 7 rapid attack ships and a corvette

Talks are underway between Morocco and Turkey for the purchase of 7 fast attack craft (FAC) and a corvette from the Turkish shipyard Gölcük, for the benefit of the Royal Navy, reports the site information Tactical Report , specializing in defense issues in an article dated yesterday, Tuesday January 11. Negotiations have started since October 2021 and relate to an amount of 222 million dollars, underlines the site.

The Far-Maroc Forum, which also relays this information, indicates that the Royal Navy has a fleet of 4 Lazaga-class fast attack ships. "It seems that the Royal Navy inspection is looking to replace these ships whose technology is outdated and more expensive to maintain," said the forum on Facebook.

Défense: le Maroc négocie avec la Turquie l’achat de 7 navires d’attaque rapide et d'une corvette

Les négociations entre la Marine Royale et la Turquie ont démarré en octobre dernier, et portent sur un montant global de 222 millions de dollars. Les livraisons sont prévues au deuxième semestre 2022.

m.le360.ma

 

[Khagan1923]

Defense: Morocco negotiates with Turkey the purchase of 7 rapid attack ships and a corvette

Talks are underway between Morocco and Turkey for the purchase of 7 fast attack craft (FAC) and a corvette from the Turkish shipyard Gölcük, for the benefit of the Royal Navy, reports the site information Tactical Report , specializing in defense issues in an article dated yesterday, Tuesday January 11. Negotiations have started since October 2021 and relate to an amount of 222 million dollars, underlines the site.

The Far-Maroc Forum, which also relays this information, indicates that the Royal Navy has a fleet of 4 Lazaga-class fast attack ships. "It seems that the Royal Navy inspection is looking to replace these ships whose technology is outdated and more expensive to maintain," said the forum on Facebook.

Défense: le Maroc négocie avec la Turquie l’achat de 7 navires d’attaque rapide et d'une corvette

Les négociations entre la Marine Royale et la Turquie ont démarré en octobre dernier, et portent sur un montant global de 222 millions de dollars. Les livraisons sont prévues au deuxième semestre 2022.

m.le360.ma

7 FAC and 1 Corvette for 222 Million?

Alone the corvette would cost that much.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

There is news circulating that Morocco is in advanced talks to buy 7 FACs and 1 corvette from Türkiye.

Fac-55 infact.

 

[Anmdt]

Fac-55 infact.

Morocco Navy and cooperation with Turkey’s Golcuk Shipyard

Morocco is said to be in talks with Turkey for the procurement of fa ...</div>

www.tacticalreport.com

The original source seems to be here.

Few things to correct, the most major one;

Gölcük shipyard does not produce surface vessels anymore, the surface vessel construction is in Pendik Shipyard.
Gölcük shipyard does not market items by themselves, but through ASFAT AS of MoD or Shipyard Command of Turkish Navy.

In my opinion, the things told in there is highly inconsistent for now.

 

[AWP]

Fac-55 infact.

the design of fac-55 is not finalized till now

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Morocco Navy and cooperation with Turkey’s Golcuk Shipyard

Morocco is said to be in talks with Turkey for the procurement of fa ...</div>

www.tacticalreport.com

The original source seems to be here.

Few things to correct, the most major one;

Gölcük shipyard does not produce surface vessels anymore, the surface vessel construction is in Pendik Shipyard.
Gölcük shipyard does not market items by themselves, but through ASFAT AS of MoD or Shipyard Command of Turkish Navy.

In my opinion, the things told in there is highly inconsistent for now.

True. The first report was saying that it will be through ASFAT. Tactical report source is not that credible in my opinion, but its rumoured that negotiations are underway. Time will tell. The same applies for the tb2, its been said that morocco will have 36 tb2, and we also saw around 4-5 trips from the bayrkar facility to morocco in late december. Time will tell

 

[Cabatli_TR]

the design of fac-55 is not finalized till now

Construction of first FAC55 will start this year.

 

[TheInsider]

FAC-55 is a next-level asset. 7 FAC(FAC-55)+1 corvette(probably based on ADA class) will probably cost around a billion.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

FAC-55 is a next-level asset. 7 FAC(FAC-55)+1 corvette(probably based on ADA class) will probably cost around a billion.

Is Fac-55 based on a german design? And how much is the cost per fac 55?