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Looks like 2022's record will be quickly broken this year.

Someone give a glass of cold water to Kaşıkçı's wife, and hope the ceasefire in Yemen holds.
 

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Looks like 2022's record will be quickly broken this year.

Someone give a glass of cold water to Kaşıkçı's wife, and hope the ceasefire in Yemen holds.
Germans thought more about Kaşıkçı case than we did while exporting arms to Saudis.
 

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Germans thought more about Kaşıkçı case than we did while exporting arms to Saudis.
Germans didn't export any arms to Saudis since 2018.

I'm fine with backtracking statements and of course you can only make peace with your past enemies. These are constants of politics. I just feel bad about all the talk about Saudis bombing Yemeni children. All for naught.
 

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Germans didn't export any arms to Saudis since 2018.
Yes , since the Kaşıkçı case.

I'm fine with backtracking statements and of course you can only make peace with your past enemies. These are constants of politics. I just feel bad about all the talk about Saudis bombing Yemeni children. All for naught.

It cannot be said that we are selective in customers. We even sell ucav to mens throwing spears at the planes in Africa.

Germans give a fack on Khasgoggie. They only want divide TR and S.A. by this issue.
I'm not sure we can say that but I'm not the devil's advocate.
 
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Looks like 2022's record will be quickly broken this year.

Someone give a glass of cold water to Kaşıkçı's wife, and hope the ceasefire in Yemen holds.
Kaşıkçı incident is a tiny bit in our relationships. Those who set it up must be wishing for all bad outcomes for us but we must navigate away from all those calculated negative outcomes and maximize our benefit from our international relationships. No sentiment lasts forever if you see positive outcomes.
 

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The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is on board as a Bayraktar operator with Akıncı mega purchase.

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It cannot be said that we are selective in customers. We even sell ucav to mens throwing spears at the planes in Africa.
Disagree on this. So far, we only sell to UN recognized central governments, noone else.
Those who set it up must be wishing for all bad outcomes for us.
It was MBS who ordered the murder of a Saudi national on Turkish soil and Erdogan who promised that justice would be had. Those are the ones who set it up.
 

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Disagree on this. So far, we only sell to UN recognized central governments, noone else.
I was not questioning the legitimacy of the countries we sold to. I'm just saying these are the countries that have not established their own bureaucracy properly and have difficulty in ensuring their national unity.This shows us like that we are not picky about our customers.
 

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I was not questioning the legitimacy of the countries we sold to. I'm just saying these are the countries that have not established their own bureaucracy properly and have difficulty in ensuring their national unity.This shows us like that we are not picky about our customers.
It is business. Each arm sales creates a strong bond with those countries and other export items sure will be followed. We must accept this, we dont have oil or gas, we have to sell things or we will be left hungry.

In case of MBS; not geographically, but technically and lawfully he was murdered on SA soil, besides he was their citizens, not ours. US, France or UK didnt put an embargo for this murder, why we should? Even in Mavi Marmara incident, after Israel apologized, our relations should have become good again. We didnt and they now close with Greece

It is the profits of our honorable nation all that matters
 
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I suggest we run them off business and then absorb what's left. So many bribes going on, it'd just muddy the waters to cooperate. Paramount, easy to say that is very dirty and lots of shady dealings have been going on. Their customers being African states and ex Soviet countries and almost noone else has reasons.

Barys and Arma already competed in trials in Kazakhstan in the past. Think it's the original version.
You refering to Arma 1 when you say the original version? The deal regarding Rabdan to UAE cost under 2 million usd per unit.. Perhaps the figure around 5 million per unit is for the Arma 2🤔.
 

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In terms of civilizational relevance, both KSA, UAE and Russia are on a downward trend. We must milk them for all their worth.
 

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The West wants to Destroy Bosnia and Kosovo.

Basically leave it like it in the 90s where the Bosniaks and Kosovars either got massacred or raped.

All about stopping Turkish geopolitical interests while at the same time trying stop their exports.
 

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The West wants to Destroy Bosnia and Kosovo.

Basically leave it like it in the 90s where the Bosniaks and Kosovars either got massacred or raped.

All about stopping Turkish geopolitical interests while at the same time trying stop their exports.
That's a friggin deja vu. Mark my words, if and when Serbians decide to attack Kosovo, Europeans will become the biggest supporters of Kosovo and ignore this.
 

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They will support the Serbs to be honest.

No doubt about that.
If Serbs renounce russia, then yes. I can see that. If not, I don't know. Doesn't seem possible.

Either way, we got their backs now. It's not the 90s anymore. Whoever attacks Kosovo or Bosnia will face the consequences much faster than the last war.
 

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In case of MBS; not geographically, but technically and lawfully he was murdered on SA soil
False. That's not how embassies work. It is still very much Turkish soil.
Don't they already have enough lines to produce goods for export?
It would be kind of weird if they build individual manufacturing lines to export to individual countries.
Or am I misunderstanding something?
I think he's referring to building production lines in other countries, transferring know how and training personnel.
You refering to Arma 1 when you say the original version? The deal regarding Rabdan to UAE cost under 2 million usd per unit.. Perhaps the figure around 5 million per unit is for the Arma 2🤔.
Yes, Original Arma is Arma I. We do not know if that number is even correct or if it's final, or what it entails, so too early to say anything. For example, for Rabdan, they come with BMP-3 turrets bought from Russia, which probably wasn't part of the deal Otokar signed with UAE and it was bought separately. Arma Kazakhstan tested has an Otokar turret on it.
 

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Disagree on this. So far, we only sell to UN recognized central governments, noone else.

It was MBS who ordered the murder of a Saudi national on Turkish soil and Erdogan who promised that justice would be had. Those are the ones who set it up.
You are accusing Erdoğan of setting it up, that's the stupidest thing.

I wonder who encouraged MBS to do that, who is the mastermind, who wants to jeopardize KSA Türkiye relations and own KSA in its sole hands, I bet it is outside the KSA, more like the CIA.

MBS and instigators wanted to blame Türkiye for killing Qassugghi and now justice is being held and KSA is paying dearly for plotting to accuse Türkiye.
 
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