TR Defence Exports & Updates

[Agha Sher]

Although what I'm about to ask may seems a bit odd but i will ask it anyway t.

Can any gentleman with insider knowledge on Türkiye defense export can give information on present and future defence purchases made by BD from Türkiye? is there any talks from our side to buy the KAAN? I have heard on multiple social media platform that Mr.Erdogan had offered bd, malaysia indonesia for joint development. But we didn't have any money back then

To my knowledge, BD has never been offered KAAN directly. However, all close allies of Turkiye will be offered KAAN at some point, I believe. Question is if BD can be considered a close ally? With the current weapon acquisitions by BD, I think there is a good chance that BD will become an important ally/partner for Turkiye in the coming decades - especially if BD can keep growing its economy at 7-8% per year.

 

[Afif]

Although what I'm about to ask may seems a bit odd but i will ask it anyway t.

Can any gentleman with insider knowledge on Türkiye defense export can give information on present and future defence purchases made by BD from Türkiye? is there any talks from our side to buy the KAAN? I have heard on multiple social media platform that Mr.Erdogan had offered bd, malaysia indonesia for joint development.

I am not sure about anything definitive related to KAAN purchase. I mean, It is still a decade away from maturing. If aything was offered in the name of Joint development, it was more like, taking pre-orders.

About other purchases, in recent times it includes 100+ Cobra-ii, 1x Regiment TIGER MLRS, 6x TB-2, 1x Regiment BORAN and some other small items. (And HISAR O+, (KHAN?) ATMACA (more TIGER MLRS. Was sent out Ukraine later?) & Teber guidance kits was known to be ordered in 2021 with delivery commencing from this year)



Edit- We can confirm an offer was formally made by Turkish officials for joint production of drones. But later, it didn't go anywhere.

 

[Bluetooth]

With the current weapon acquisitions by BD, I think there is a good chance that BD will become an important ally/partner for Turkiye in the coming decades

Inshallah.bangladesh should always look up to it's true and historic allies for such sensitive purchase. we should never buy anything big from those western hypocrites and terrorist junta supporting CCP parasites.

i hope this beautiful aircraft finds market in South East Asian countries too along with pakistani.

 

[TheInsider]

Turkiye will certainly offer Kaan to BD but can the BD secure enough funds to make it happen? Because Turkiye lacks credit/financing options mainly offered by the Western countries with military purchases.

 

[Afif]

Turkiye will certainly offer Kaan to BD but can the BD secure enough funds to make it happen? Because Turkiye lacks credit/financing options mainly offered by the Western countries with military purchases.

Obviously, it is not in this decade. In 2030s BD's economy set to grow substantially. (If we can keep the same rate of last two decades.) In the end it will depend on various factors, from geopolitical outlook to budgetary capability.

 

[Bluetooth]

Turkiye will certainly offer Kaan to BD but can the BD secure enough funds to make it happen? Because Turkiye lacks credit/financing options mainly offered by the Western countries with military purchases.

I believe Bangladesh doesn't really have any other option than kaan for 5th gen fighters.But maybe kf-21 will offer competition. But can they also match western credit options?

 

[dBSPL]

We are entering a very turbulent period globally. Therefore, the development of countries' defense capacities will be the primary issue for about 20 years. First national security, then bread.

If we can move KAAN smoothly into the FOC phase, we will have a real challenge in creating a production capacity that will respond to demand. The main reason for this is that Turkish arms exports do not come with a blackmail package in terms of potential markets, and the parallelism in national interests will create a unique option.

 

[what]

I believe Bangladesh doesn't really have any other option than kaan for 5th gen fighters.But maybe kf-21 will offer competition. But can they also match western credit options?

Yes, Korean banks can probably match other western countries. They are earning hundreds of billions of € every year through exports surplus.

 

[Scott Summers]

57 muslim nations.

Imagine that these 57 nations are turning into customers of the Turkish Defence Industry.

They free theirselves from American, Russian, French, Korean and Chinese developers and only buy Turkish.

Afghanistan: 50 KAAN 150 Altay
Albania 25 KAAN 50 Altay
Azerbaijan 80 KAAN 80 Altay
Bahrain 30 KAAN 50 Altay
Bangladesh 100 KAAN 100 Altay
Benin 30 KAAN 50 Altay
UAE 100 KAAN 200 Altay
Brunei 20 KAAN 50 Altay
Burkina Faso 40 KAAN 60 Altay
Algeria 150 KAAN 300 Altay
Djibouti 30 KAAN 30 Altay
Chad 10 KAAN 50 Altay
Indonesia 200 KAAN 200 Altay
Morocco 150 KAAN 200 Altay

.........

And then you have Cote d’Ivoire, Palestine, Gabon, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Guyana, Iraq, Iran, Cameroon, Qatar, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the Comoros, Kuwait, Libya, Lebanon, Maldives, Malaysia, Mali, Egypt, Mauritania, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somali, Sudan, Surinam, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Togo, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Oman, Jordan, Yemen.

All the OIC members.

Turkey would jump into the top 5 world arms producers with these orders and the years long delivery of missiles, spare parts, radars, upgrades and repairs.

No Western or Russians software backdoors and no overpricing, but joint producing and technology transfer.

 

[what]

The economic powerhouse of Afghanistan or shall we say the Taliban will buy 50 KAANs for around 5bln €.
That's all I have to say about the quality of your post.

 

[Afif]

Bangladesh 100 KAAN 100 Altay.

Burkina Faso 40 KAAN 60 Altay

What kind of insult is this? Burkina Faso's economy is $21 billions while Bangladesh has an economy of $450 billions.

If Burkina Faso buys 40 KAAN, BD will order 900 KAAN at least. Get your facts straight buddy.

In fact, we may round off and buy 1000 KAAN in total.

 

[boredaf]

57 muslim nations.

Imagine that these 57 nations are turning into customers of the Turkish Defence Industry.

They free theirselves from American, Russian, French, Korean and Chinese developers and only buy Turkish.

Afghanistan: 50 KAAN 150 Altay
Albania 25 KAAN 50 Altay
Azerbaijan 80 KAAN 80 Altay
Bahrain 30 KAAN 50 Altay
Bangladesh 100 KAAN 100 Altay
Benin 30 KAAN 50 Altay
UAE 100 KAAN 200 Altay
Brunei 20 KAAN 50 Altay
Burkina Faso 40 KAAN 60 Altay
Algeria 150 KAAN 300 Altay
Djibouti 30 KAAN 30 Altay
Chad 10 KAAN 50 Altay
Indonesia 200 KAAN 200 Altay
Morocco 150 KAAN 200 Altay

.........

And then you have Cote d’Ivoire, Palestine, Gabon, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Guyana, Iraq, Iran, Cameroon, Qatar, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the Comoros, Kuwait, Libya, Lebanon, Maldives, Malaysia, Mali, Egypt, Mauritania, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somali, Sudan, Surinam, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Togo, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Oman, Jordan, Yemen.

All the OIC members.

Turkey would jump into the top 5 world arms producers with these orders and the years long delivery of missiles, spare parts, radars, upgrades and repairs.

No Western or Russians software backdoors and no overpricing, but joint producing and technology transfer.

Islam is not as binding as you think mate, half the Islamic nations hate each other. I mean look at that list. Syria? Iran?

Nor all of those countries would be able to afford a small portion of what you attributed to them. And the richer ones already get whatever they want without much trouble, just check how many defence contracts Saudi Arabia signed just this month. Not to mention it would take us more or less a hundred years to produce all that.

Some realism mate, please ffs.

 

[Baryshx]

57 muslim nations.

Imagine that these 57 nations are turning into customers of the Turkish Defence Industry.

They free theirselves from American, Russian, French, Korean and Chinese developers and only buy Turkish.

Afghanistan: 50 KAAN 150 Altay
Albania 25 KAAN 50 Altay
Azerbaijan 80 KAAN 80 Altay
Bahrain 30 KAAN 50 Altay
Bangladesh 100 KAAN 100 Altay
Benin 30 KAAN 50 Altay
UAE 100 KAAN 200 Altay
Brunei 20 KAAN 50 Altay
Burkina Faso 40 KAAN 60 Altay
Algeria 150 KAAN 300 Altay
Djibouti 30 KAAN 30 Altay
Chad 10 KAAN 50 Altay
Indonesia 200 KAAN 200 Altay
Morocco 150 KAAN 200 Altay

.........

And then you have Cote d’Ivoire, Palestine, Gabon, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Guyana, Iraq, Iran, Cameroon, Qatar, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the Comoros, Kuwait, Libya, Lebanon, Maldives, Malaysia, Mali, Egypt, Mauritania, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somali, Sudan, Surinam, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Togo, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Oman, Jordan, Yemen.

All the OIC members.

Turkey would jump into the top 5 world arms producers with these orders and the years long delivery of missiles, spare parts, radars, upgrades and repairs.

No Western or Russians software backdoors and no overpricing, but joint producing and technology transfer.

The friend is caught up in an imaginary idea of Islam. All these countries have different ideas of Islam. Also, the interests and strategies of countries are not based on religion. Including the fake, terrorist government of Afghanistan.

Prince, wake up, your dream is not realistic.

 

[Ryder]

57 muslim nations.

Imagine that these 57 nations are turning into customers of the Turkish Defence Industry.

They free theirselves from American, Russian, French, Korean and Chinese developers and only buy Turkish.

Afghanistan: 50 KAAN 150 Altay
Albania 25 KAAN 50 Altay
Azerbaijan 80 KAAN 80 Altay
Bahrain 30 KAAN 50 Altay
Bangladesh 100 KAAN 100 Altay
Benin 30 KAAN 50 Altay
UAE 100 KAAN 200 Altay
Brunei 20 KAAN 50 Altay
Burkina Faso 40 KAAN 60 Altay
Algeria 150 KAAN 300 Altay
Djibouti 30 KAAN 30 Altay
Chad 10 KAAN 50 Altay
Indonesia 200 KAAN 200 Altay
Morocco 150 KAAN 200 Altay

.........

And then you have Cote d’Ivoire, Palestine, Gabon, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Guyana, Iraq, Iran, Cameroon, Qatar, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the Comoros, Kuwait, Libya, Lebanon, Maldives, Malaysia, Mali, Egypt, Mauritania, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somali, Sudan, Surinam, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Togo, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Oman, Jordan, Yemen.

All the OIC members.

Turkey would jump into the top 5 world arms producers with these orders and the years long delivery of missiles, spare parts, radars, upgrades and repairs.

No Western or Russians software backdoors and no overpricing, but joint producing and technology transfer.

Bro I doubt the island nations you mentioned will buy tanks.

Planes and tanks cant be made overnight.

I understand your post and thr potential Turkish defence exports to those nations. But the list you made is unrealistic.

Maldives and Comoros do not have the budget to buy kaan and altay tanks. Island nations will not spend money on types of warfare that wont work like tanks.

Maldives and Comoros can buy small arms maybe even drones.

Every nation you listed have different requirements. Hence why Turkish defence exports will play to that.

Chad mostly invests in mraps and light infantry due to environment of the sahara. Mobility is key to fighting there. Turkish small arms and mraps are perfect to export to this nation.

 

[Stimpy75]

Georgia

 

[BalkanTurk90]

The economic powerhouse of Afghanistan or shall we say the Taliban will buy 50 KAANs for around 5bln €.
That's all I have to say about the quality of your post.

Afganistan with its economy can buy only 1 KAAN outer shell without engines to show off to others

 

[Scott Summers]

Bro I doubt the island nations you mentioned will buy tanks.

Planes and tanks cant be made overnight.

I understand your post and thr potential Turkish defence exports to those nations. But the list you made is unrealistic.

Maldives and Comoros do not have the budget to buy kaan and altay tanks. Island nations will not spend money on types of warfare that wont work like tanks.

Maldives and Comoros can buy small arms maybe even drones.

Every nation you listed have different requirements. Hence why Turkish defence exports will play to that.

Chad mostly invests in mraps and light infantry due to environment of the sahara. Mobility is key to fighting there. Turkish small arms and mraps are perfect to export to this nation.

It was more wishfull thinking. But we have the potential to become the number 1 weaponsupplier of the OIC-nations.

If our hardware is full blown ready for mass production and the orders of these 57 nations are coming in, we have a real problem because we have a lot of lazy people.

We need a good planning for mass producing and outbound our capacity environment. You cant let your customer wait for years like the US and EU are doing. That is bad business.

The State must courage and help the big arms producers to build more weapon plants, especially in the area of Konya/Karaman because that area is not vulnerable for earthquakes.

 

[Ryder]

It was more wishfull thinking. But we have the potential to become the number 1 weaponsupplier of the OIC-nations.

If our hardware is full blown ready for mass production and the orders of these 57 nations are coming in, we have a real problem because we have a lot of lazy people.

We need a good planning for mass producing and outbound our capacity environment. You cant let your customer wait for years like the US and EU are doing. That is bad business.

The State must courage and help the big arms producers to build more weapon plants, especially in the area of Konya/Karaman because that area is not vulnerable for earthquakes.

You gotta remember that even Industrial giants even struggle to equip not just their own nation but other nations too.

This has happened numerous times.

Regardless if its peace or war.

Look at the F35 order most people will get their jets around 2030s. Despite our technology to mass produce you still will have various factors on where you will struggle.

 

[Kartal1]

Greek media Kathimerini:

Greece, Greek Cypriot Administration of Southern Cyprus and France blocked the supply of Turkish Bayraktar UAV and artillery ammunition to be purchased with European financing for Ukraine's needs.

An attempt to give a share to the South African subsidiary of a German company that took over the production of 155 mm artillery ammunition for Ukraine was similarly blocked.

Sources stated that the aim of this move is to ensure that EU funds are not lost in favor of the defense industry of third countries.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758881075390996810

 

[Huelague]

Greek media Kathimerini:

Greece, Greek Cypriot Administration of Southern Cyprus and France blocked the supply of Turkish Bayraktar UAV and artillery ammunition to be purchased with European financing for Ukraine's needs.

An attempt to give a share to the South African subsidiary of a German company that took over the production of 155 mm artillery ammunition for Ukraine was similarly blocked.

Sources stated that the aim of this move is to ensure that EU funds are not lost in favor of the defense industry of third countries.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758881075390996810

Ukraines will love Greece for that.