TR Defence Exports & Updates

[Sanchez]

And countries that were part of the embargo against us.

So, nearly everyone in "the west" ?

 

[Ripley]

So, nearly everyone in "the west" ?

Yeah. I love to see them sitting on our laps and tell ‘em, tables have turned now but it doesn’t work that way. You need to be richer, disciplined and stabilized to dictate the terms.

 

[Saithan]

Yeah. I love to see them sitting on our laps and tell ‘em, tables have turned now but it doesn’t work that way. You need to be richer, disciplined and stabilized to dictate the terms.

Exporting defence to west should be limited and just enough to use for PR. Exporting for a few 100 million is peanuts and doesn't really benefit our country in the long run. I think an arms deal should include commercial deal too. So if they import for 100 million. Missiles and such, they should import consumer products for 100 million too.

 

[Sanchez]

Exporting defence to west should be limited and just enough to use for PR. Exporting for a few 100 million is peanuts and doesn't really benefit our country in the long run. I think an arms deal should include commercial deal too. So if they import for 100 million. Missiles and such, they should import consumer products for 100 million too.

Only direct benefit we offer is shorter lead times on munitions and drone tech. All the rest is stuff they can make themselves or buy from many other interested sellers. We simply do not have such a luxury to reject a business proposal.

 

[2033]

Yeah. I love to see them sitting on our laps and tell ‘em, tables have turned now but it doesn’t work that way. You need to be richer, disciplined and stabilized to dictate the terms.

Wow, you got cocky real fast

 

[Pokemonte13]

Is it just me or do the hangars on the opvs look different?

 

[Ripley]

Wow, you got cocky real fast

Read again.

 

[Sanchez]

Is it just me or do the hangars on the opvs look different?

They are. Ex-Akhisar new Roman was modified a bit, probably to allow hangar space for Romanian IAR-330 Puma. The added section is nicely visible below. Another notch on the flexibility of the design and the Turkish builders tbh.

 

[Pokemonte13]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2070178920583061771

Based on the increase of Belgian visits to Turkey the likelihood that Sedef will build their frigates is high. Maybe even the export of usv/uavs.

 

[Sanchez]

Aselsan is offering its MLU solutions for Brazilian Navy's large surface vessels.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2070639365785591865

Brazil have some 50 year old British designed T22s and Brazilian built T21s. A large MLU like our Mekos would probably be more expensive in the long run than getting new ships; so I don't expect much, at least regarding frigates. But, it's good that they are out there. We still didn't hear anything from Argentina with their Meko mod program.

 

[dBSPL]

The NATO Defence Industry Forum (NSDIF26) has been integrated as a core element of the official summit programme for the first time in Ankara. The first day of the summit, 7 July, will be organized entirely as "Defence Industry Day", and the events will be held at the Ankara Chamber of Commerce (ATO) Congresium. Multi-lateral roundtables will be established at the forum to address deficiencies in missile capabilities, electronic warfare, artificial intelligence, and intelligence-surveillance-reconnaissance (ISR). In the words of Secretary General Rutte, this format will not merely be an exhibition, but will feature official signing sessions where massive contracts, Memorandums of Understanding (MoUs), and Letters of Intent (LoIs) -the negotiations of which have already been finalized- will be signed in the presence of leaders.

NATO is organizing the largest industrial participation in its history to boost transatlantic defence production capacity and increase allies' defence spending. The forum will bring together the defence ministers and procurement chiefs of the 32 allied nations, alongside the CEOs and top executives of global defence giants such as Lockheed Martin, RTX, Northrop Grumman, BAE Systems, Rheinmetall, Leonardo, Aselsan, Baykar and Thales. The main focus of the summit format will be "Ramping Up Defence Production and Joint Procurement". Rather than nations manufacturing weapons in isolation, the objective is for international corporations to form consortia to standardize ammunition production and provide long-term military equipment support to Ukraine.

For Türkiye, this summit atmosphere offers an ideal platform to sign critical agreements for its own urgent and strategic military requirements, issue letters of intent, or take diplomatic steps to resolve ongoing procurement hurdles. As Turkiye rapidly develops its own national air defense umbrella, the "Steel Dome" project, the integration of this system into the NATO architecture, its interoperability with allied systems, and the establishment of the technical infrastructure to facilitate its export to allied countries are likely to be among the topics discussed at the summit.

On the other hand, NATO Secretary General Rutte’s clear declaration that "we must cut the red tape in Washington" is an acknowledgement from the highest authority that bureaucratic obstacles and congressional restrictions, which slow down military procurement processes among allies, damage the alliance's collective security. The Ankara Summit has the potential to translate these statements into concrete actions and free trade.

Türkiye will not participate in this summit merely as a "buyer/taker". Due to the ammunition and explosives shortage experienced across the Western world, allies require Türkiye's high production capacity. Türkiye is expected to sign multi-national production partnerships to plug the shortfall in artillery shells, rocket motors, and explosive raw materials. Ankara plans to bring these sales to the table as an "offset" mechanism for procurement of the high-tech products it requires. In this context, a new acceleration in Türkiye-Germany defence relations is highly probable.

Within this new alignment strategy, Türkiye will begin to bring its proven defence framework and production capacity into deep integration with European and NATO systems. Such a comprehensive structural integration of the Turkish defence industry into the alliance's technical and operational infrastructure will generate entirely new strategic perspectives within the alliance over the medium and long term. By combining its military geography, human resources, and industrial strength through these structural collaborations, Ankara will anchor its indispensable and central position within the alliance's joint defence architecture on a much more profound foundation. This summit is of historical importance, above all because of its potential to be a milestone in a significant paradigm shift within NATO.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

I'd say this is bordering on absurdity, but pretty big claim if true. BlackRock already owns more than 1% of Aselsan's public shares.

@Yasar_TR @TR_123456 @Bogeyman @Sanchez @Ripley @Anastasius @Zafer @Anmdt @dBSPL @Ryder


Fatih Altaylı: (On ASELSAN) “According to what Oda TV wrote, the giant American fund called BlackRock is supposedly after a company in Turkey. Through the mediation of Tom Barrack—the U.S. Ambassador to Ankara, businessman, and banker—BlackRock, which wants to acquire a public giant from Turkey, has its sights set on Aselsan, the apple of the eye and also a giant of the Turkish defense industry. I see the possibility of Aselsan—Turkey's largest defense industry company, which also holds a considerable place and share in the global defense industry—being sold to a foreigner, especially an American company, as less than zero. It's the world's 43rd largest defense industry company, and in Turkey, we don't have any company that has reached this ranking not just in the strategic sector of defense industry, but in other fields either. In other words, both its importance and value are immense. It's the 50-year accumulation of the country, of our people. I hope this backchannel information from Oda TV is not true. Even if it is true, I hope such a sale does not take place.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2071228576838627666

 

[Zafer]

Aselsan is number 12 in the defence contractors sector public companies and has the potential to become number 5 doubling its value. A company only needs extra capital if they want to make a big jump but does not have the money to do that. In the current situation I don't see Aselsan needing a big sum of money (I haven't looked at its fundamentals actually). The only reason I can see for Aselsan to need foreign investment is if they want to start a microelectronics fab in Türkiye using ASML eUV lithography machines. This would be a big jump warranting an investment in the order of $5+bn. In which case Türkiye can benefit a lot and become 93+% self reliant in defence sector and probably including civilian sector. This move needs to be supported by foreign political endorsement as it is not a move which is purely economical. In any case Aselsan stays a Turkish controlled company only making profits to foreign investors in a minority part.

 

[boredaf]

I'd say this is bordering on absurdity, but pretty big claim if true. BlackRock already owns more than 1% of Aselsan's public shares.

@Yasar_TR @TR_123456 @Bogeyman @Sanchez @Ripley @Anastasius @Zafer @Anmdt @dBSPL @Ryder


Fatih Altaylı: (On ASELSAN) “According to what Oda TV wrote, the giant American fund called BlackRock is supposedly after a company in Turkey. Through the mediation of Tom Barrack—the U.S. Ambassador to Ankara, businessman, and banker—BlackRock, which wants to acquire a public giant from Turkey, has its sights set on Aselsan, the apple of the eye and also a giant of the Turkish defense industry. I see the possibility of Aselsan—Turkey's largest defense industry company, which also holds a considerable place and share in the global defense industry—being sold to a foreigner, especially an American company, as less than zero. It's the world's 43rd largest defense industry company, and in Turkey, we don't have any company that has reached this ranking not just in the strategic sector of defense industry, but in other fields either. In other words, both its importance and value are immense. It's the 50-year accumulation of the country, of our people. I hope this backchannel information from Oda TV is not true. Even if it is true, I hope such a sale does not take place.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2071228576838627666

Private equity firms kill everything they touch. Everything. There isn't a single bloody company that have been acquired by one and did well in the long run, they are all stripped of their assets for short term gain and when the private equity firm drains them of anything of value like, a vampire, they are sold. Even a minority share should be considered high treason for anyone who approves it, Aselsan is the single most critical company we have for our military.