Egypt Air-Force Egypt Air Force

[Gamal]

Pictured to the right are the C models purchased by Egypt, when they were new.

When the government of Egypt purchased the Iranian Chinooks it had no qualified pilots to operate their new helicopters. The U.S. Army was engaged to fly the Chinooks from the factory in Italy to their new home in Egypt. Air Crews from units stationed in Germany were called upon to participate in the adventure. Units in Europe at the time were the 180th Assault Support Helicopter Company (ASHC) - "Big Windy", 295th ASHC - "Cyclones", and 205th ASHC - "Geronimos".

Geronimo Participants

	CPT Harold S. Barrett	CW3 James E. Coleman	SSG Robert Davis
	CPT Gary S. Mulrooney	CW3 Jimmie Husband	SGT Jack G. England
	CPT Michael P. Breithaupt	CW2 Randall D. Sizemore	SP4 Craig M. Brayer
	CW3 William Atkinson	SFC Armando Valdez	SP4 Michael K. Hotsenpiller
	CW3 Stephan J. Weissenberger	SSG William J. Walter	SP4 Joe B. Deathrage

 

[Gamal]

"If the 'C' models are upgraded, they would have an aircraft equal to the U.S. Army, and we could provide them Army support," Johnny McMullen, chief of the SAMD general aviation branch, said. "Egypt is considering upgrading 10 of their 'C' models to the 'D' configuration."

The CH-47D's primary mission is moving artillery, ammunition, personnel, equipment, supplies, barrier material, and fuel on the battlefield. In civil service, the CH-47D can perform rescue, aeromedical, and parachuting missions in times of national emergency. The CH-47D can fly day or night in almost any weather.

"You do not have to have a war to get good use out of the Chinook," Richardson said.

Who is that guy behind those Foster Grants?

CW4 Harry Champagne, pictured above, was instrumental in the delivery of four CH-47D Chinook to the Egyptian government in 2000. Mr. Champagne was assigned to Corpus Christi Army Depot, Corpus Christi, Texas at the time. He served with the United States Army at the repair facility conducting test flights on the Chinook prior to their delivery to various units around the world. In 2001, he retired from the U.S. Army and began employment as a Department of the Army Civilian (DAC), still piloting the mighty Chinook helicopter.

Below, one of the Egyptian CH-47D Chinooks, circa 2000. Notice the triple hook configuration, the Engine Air Particle System (EAPS) to keep the sand out of the engines, the ARC-199 high frequency radio antennna, a radar radome on the nose (the aircraft sported color weather radar), and fiberglass rotor blades:

 

[Gamal]

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Newly converted D models make their way to Egypt:

Six old Augusta built Egyptian C models arriving at the port in Pennsylvania for refit, circa 2002:

20 November 2005: An Egyptian CH-47D Chinook seen at the Dubai Airshow.

 

[Gamal]

Egypt’s state-owned Arab Organization for Industrialization (AOI) announced on 16 January that it has signed an agreement with Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) for local production of the latter’s T-50/FA-50 lead-in fighter trainer (LIFT) aircraft.

The aircraft will be built at the AOI Aircraft Factory in Helwan – which previously licence-produced and manufactured aircraft for the Egyptian Air Force (EAF), including the Chinese-designed Hongdu K-8E jet trainer, Helwan HA-200 Al Kahirah subsonic trainer, and Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jet – and continues to provide support for the ageing aircraft today.

AOI noted in its statement that top company officials, including chairman Mokhtar Abdel-Latif, had concluded discussions with a South Korean delegation that included their counterparts from KAI and Hanwha Aerospace as well as members of parliament.

At the core of negotiations was the implementation of the AOI’s agreement with KAI aimed at technology transfer and localisation of manufacturing for advanced jet trainers to meet EAF requirements, along with prospects for exports to African and Arab countries.

South Korean media earlier reported that Egypt’s requirement for a new jet trainer could potentially be as large as 100 aircraft and that the T-50/FA-50 was well positioned against competing designs such as the Hongdu L-15 and Italian M-346 given its commonality with the EAF’s F-16 combat aircraft.
The T-50 Golden Eagle is a single-engine, supersonic aircraft developed by KAI for the Republic of Korea Air Force (RoKAF) with technical assistance from Lockheed Martin, with an eye on emerging international requirements for affordable LIFT and light-attack aircraft.

More than 200 T-50/FA-50s are currently in operation worldwide, including Asia Pacific countries such as Indonesia, Philippines, and Thailand. Elsewhere, Poland became the latest country to sign for the type with a US$3 billion order for up to 48 FA-50PL light attack aircraft. Deliveries are expected to commence from mid-2023.
South Korean media also suggested that Egypt could be a potential customer for the KAI KF-21 Boramae advanced multirole fighter, which is currently in advanced stages of development and undergoing flight testing.

News

www.egyptdefenceexpo.com

 

[No Name]

Egypt’s state-owned Arab Organization for Industrialization (AOI) announced on 16 January that it has signed an agreement with Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) for local production of the latter’s T-50/FA-50 lead-in fighter trainer (LIFT) aircraft.

The aircraft will be built at the AOI Aircraft Factory in Helwan – which previously licence-produced and manufactured aircraft for the Egyptian Air Force (EAF), including the Chinese-designed Hongdu K-8E jet trainer, Helwan HA-200 Al Kahirah subsonic trainer, and Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jet – and continues to provide support for the ageing aircraft today.

AOI noted in its statement that top company officials, including chairman Mokhtar Abdel-Latif, had concluded discussions with a South Korean delegation that included their counterparts from KAI and Hanwha Aerospace as well as members of parliament.

At the core of negotiations was the implementation of the AOI’s agreement with KAI aimed at technology transfer and localisation of manufacturing for advanced jet trainers to meet EAF requirements, along with prospects for exports to African and Arab countries.

South Korean media earlier reported that Egypt’s requirement for a new jet trainer could potentially be as large as 100 aircraft and that the T-50/FA-50 was well positioned against competing designs such as the Hongdu L-15 and Italian M-346 given its commonality with the EAF’s F-16 combat aircraft.
The T-50 Golden Eagle is a single-engine, supersonic aircraft developed by KAI for the Republic of Korea Air Force (RoKAF) with technical assistance from Lockheed Martin, with an eye on emerging international requirements for affordable LIFT and light-attack aircraft.

More than 200 T-50/FA-50s are currently in operation worldwide, including Asia Pacific countries such as Indonesia, Philippines, and Thailand. Elsewhere, Poland became the latest country to sign for the type with a US$3 billion order for up to 48 FA-50PL light attack aircraft. Deliveries are expected to commence from mid-2023.
South Korean media also suggested that Egypt could be a potential customer for the KAI KF-21 Boramae advanced multirole fighter, which is currently in advanced stages of development and undergoing flight testing.

News

www.egyptdefenceexpo.com

What is Egypt trying to achieve by buying so many different plant forms?

Can Egypt even maintain that many different systems?

If so, how are the Egyptian military's logistics organised?

 

[Oublious]

What did happen with Indians ? Before you post this you should have to wait for a contract is signed. I don't think Koreans will give high end technology to third parties.

 

[Fairon]

What is Egypt trying to achieve by buying so many different plant forms?

Can Egypt even maintain that many different systems?

If so, how are the Egyptian military's logistics organised?

I think Egypt also avare of this problem and trying to fix that by buying Korean equipment.

Korea kinda became a go to country if you want to standardize your military equipment without political strings attached. They probably still buy from different blocs for political gain but their real military will be equiped with locally produced Korean equipment.

Or they want to kickstart their defence industry.

 

[Agha Sher]

Egypt is a complete nightmare. How many different types of aircraft do they want to operate. Their air force wouldn't be able to sustain 1 week of full scale combat with this kind of logistics.

 

[dBSPL]

What did happen with Indians ? Before you post this you should have to wait for a contract is signed. I don't think Koreans will give high end technology to third parties.

There is no significant technology in the T-50. The capacity at KAI is largely shifting to next-generation projects, and in this respect, the fact that the platform, which has already achieved significant commercial success, is still increasing its profitability without disrupting the current production planning, either under license or by moving the final assembly lines to user countries, is an achievement that should be appreciated.

It would also be absurd for a sales agreement of this scale to be based entirely on foreign-facility production. The Egyptian defense ministry has taken the right approach. The sad thing here is that Egypt should have started making such deals from the 1980s. Lockheed's imprint on the aircraft is also undeniable. Both politically and technically, Egypt needs to be in a position to produce them built-in-house.

I wish the best for the Egyptians. Inshallah, they will be in a much better place in the near future.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Egypt is a complete nightmare. How many different types of aircraft do they want to operate. Their air force wouldn't be able to sustain 1 week of full scale combat with this kind of logistics.

Their doctrine has been Soviet for so long and just like Russia, their focus is on looking cool with their new toys without much thought of what those bring with them, i.e logistics, maintenance, ordnance, spare parts etc.

 

[Rajendra Chola]

What did happen with Indians ? Before you post this you should have to wait for a contract is signed. I don't think Koreans will give high end technology to third parties.

Koreans are pretty good “businessmen” if anyone asks me. They won the Malaysian tender without the officials visiting other aircraft facilities or test flying them. In fact it was so open, that their RFP was more than the max tender value Malaysian MoF has planned, and their MoD requested more money to be allocated which was then rejected and the deal is now in investigation/court.
The other two RFP responses from india and China were well within the RFP budgetary requirements.

Indian babus at the end of the day have to give strict accounting of the money they spend and they don’t have money for “business” purposes.

But I think Egyptian deal with Koreans is near final. Ka50 at the end of the day is very less advanced trainer with more American parts and weapons than Tejas.

 

[Gamal]

Can Egypt even maintain that many different systems?

We accept this is problem for us but being dependent on one country is a bigger problem. In this case, you should always get on well with the only country you are dependent on. There is no other way

 

[Lool]

Koreans are pretty good “businessmen” if anyone asks me. They won the Malaysian tender without the officials visiting other aircraft facilities or test flying them. In fact it was so open, that their RFP was more than the max tender value Malaysian MoF has planned, and their MoD requested more money to be allocated which was then rejected and the deal is now in investigation/court.
The other two RFP responses from india and China were well within the RFP budgetary requirements.

Indian babus at the end of the day have to give strict accounting of the money they spend and they don’t have money for “business” purposes.

But I think Egyptian deal with Koreans is near final. Ka50 at the end of the day is very less advanced trainer with more American parts and weapons than Tejas.

Is Tejas more advanced than the KA-50?
I thought that they were nearly the same with the Tejas being more geared to kill enemies and more versatile as well

 

[Afif]

There is no significant technology in the T-50. The capacity at KAI is largely shifting to next-generation projects, and in this respect, the fact that the platform, which has already achieved significant commercial success, is still increasing its profitability without disrupting the current production planning, either under license or by moving the final assembly lines to user countries, is an achievement that should be appreciated.

It would also be absurd for a sales agreement of this scale to be based entirely on foreign-facility production. The Egyptian defense ministry has taken the right approach. The sad thing here is that Egypt should have started making such deals from the 1980s. Lockheed's imprint on the aircraft is also undeniable. Both politically and technically, Egypt needs to be in a position to produce them built-in-house.

I wish the best for the Egyptians. Inshallah, they will be in a much better place in the near future.

Bro, that is very generous of you.
I think lot of our friends here does not appreciate the recent initiatives by the Egyptians to develop a defense industry for the current political condition of that country.

But personally, i believe in some area we should try to look beyond the politics in long term state to state manner.

I mean, that is exactly how we were able to take BD and Turkey bilateral relationship to a whole new level after escaping a diplomatic crisis in 2016.

 

[Rajendra Chola]

Is Tejas more advanced than the KA-50?
I thought that they were nearly the same with the Tejas being more geared to kill enemies and more versatile as well

FA50 is still an trainer. Tejas is an full fledged fighter. It’s no comparison.

Other than engine and radar, there are no other similarities. Tejas still uses Israeli HUD , FA50 uses American ones I think. Weapons wise, Tejas has 3 times more weapons already integrated, Indian , Russian , Israeli and French ones. Thr advantage of FA50 is most of its secondary subsystem are also designed by experienced aerospace companies from LM to Thales. While Tejas ones are a mix of Indian to foreign ones.

However for purely trainer/light attack roles, Tejas is probably an overkill.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Well, Egypt ordered new J10CE Chinese fighters in August 2024.
Now it has received the first batch of two .
That is real quick delivery that some of the western countries should worry about in the event of war. (That is power of quick response to potentially replenish lost quantities.)

As US declined providing BVR amraams for Egypt’s F16 and French Rafale’s arrived without Meteor, Egypt opted for Chinese J10CE planes that came with PL 10 and BVR PL15 missiles supported by an Aesa radar . Planes are powered by WS10B turbofans.

French Rafales with french engines and French munitions
US F16s with US engines and US munitions
Russian Migs with Russian engines and Russian weapons
Chinese J10CEs with Chinese engines and Chinese weapons

The Czech , British, French, Canadian trainers etc are also in the inventory.

What a nightmare of mishmash of an airforce to keep operational!

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[Fatman17]

military's $350 million defence pact with Turkey and its stealth fighter jet ambitions​

Olamilekan Okebiorun
16 July 2026 08:03 AM


Turkey and Egypt are transforming their diplomatic reset into a powerful defence partnership spanning arms purchases, local production, technology transfers and joint exercises as Cairo moves to fill critical gaps in its arsenal and defend its position as Africa’s strongest military in an intensifying regional arms race.

Inside the $350 million Turkey-Egypt defence pact as Africa’s most powerful military seeks its first stealth fighter

 

[Zafer]

Booking 50 Kaan for Egypt to be delivered 2032-2039.

 

[TR_123456]

Booking 50 Kaan for Egypt to be delivered 2032-2039.

Says who?

 

[Zafer]

Says who?

Says me. I think Egypt can afford and can get 50 Kaan in that timeframe. Sues Canal is open at a cost.