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Seems like some sources twisted his words
That's not what he said at all.


Only part he even refers to that is here:

"Barrack praised Turkey’s ability to host a diverse population and pointed to İzmir as a symbol of peaceful coexistence among Muslims, Jews, and Christians. “This should be the norm across the region.”

He argued that the Ottoman “millet” system offered valuable lessons and called for a “new dialogue—not war” for the next generation. Turkey, he said, combines military capability with a hardworking, globally aware population. “President Trump sees this,” he affirmed."

I wrote about this interview above, few days ago.

But I guess it now makes sense why they arrested Ümit Özdağ. Listen to the the intro to his speech.

 

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There is no twist. He is implying his intentions in a cunning way. He is the ambassador of the US. When he talks about something, he is not talking randomly. Especially this guy. He is praising the millet system; we can deduce why. We are not stupid, and it is not the first time he is bringing the Ottoman Empire, Sykes-Picot etc to the conversation.
 

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There is no twist. He is implying his intentions in a cunning way. He is the ambassador of the US. When he talks about something, he is not talking randomly. Especially this guy. He is praising the millet system; we can deduce why. We are not stupid, and it is not the first time he is bringing the Ottoman Empire, Sykes-Picot etc to the conversation.

You see it doesnt matter who comes in and out of office in the USA, the agenda for the region stays exactly the same. Politics is just a distraction, the plan has been written a long long time ago.
 

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There is no twist. He is implying his intentions in a cunning way. He is the ambassador of the US. When he talks about something, he is not talking randomly. Especially this guy. He is praising the millet system; we can deduce why. We are not stupid, and it is not the first time he is bringing the Ottoman Empire, Sykes-Picot etc to the conversation.
You see it doesnt matter who comes in and out of office in the USA, the agenda for the region stays exactly the same. Politics is just a distraction, the plan has been written a long long time ago.
After reading these posts, I decided to look for any statements, articles or books written by this "lover" of the Ottoman Empire. As often happens, in response to a request on this topic, I was recommended, among other things, the book "Strategic Vision" by Zbigniew Brzezinski. I looked through the table of contents and came across something amazingly relevant for today.

"PART III. The World After America by 2025. Not China, but Chaos
1. The Post-American Confusion

If America loses its leadership, it is unlikely that it will pass to any one successor, as most now predict for China. If a sudden, widespread crisis of the American system sets off a rapid chain reaction leading to global economic and political chaos, then America's gradual march toward increasing decline in all areas and/or an endlessly escalating war with Islam is unlikely to end even by 2025 with the "coronation" of a successor to the world throne. By then, no power will be ready to take on the role the world has assigned to the United States since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. What is more likely is a long period of rather chaotic reshuffling of global and regional power, with far more losers than clear winners amid international instability and even potentially mortal threats to global well-being......»

«.......Even if America’s gradual slide into decline is uncertain and contradictory, it is possible that the leaders of the catch-up countries, including Japan, India, Russia, and some EU members, are already assessing how a potential American collapse would affect their own national interests. Indeed, it is possible that the prospects of a post-American disorder are already quietly influencing the agendas being developed in the offices of the world’s leading powers, and perhaps even current politics. Japan, wary of China’s assertive ambitions to dominate continental Asia, may be considering closer ties with Europe. Indian and Japanese leaders may be considering options for political or even military cooperation between their countries if America falls and China rises. Russia, for now mostly daydreaming (or even gloating) about the uncertain prospects of the United States, may be looking to the independent former Soviet republics as initial springboards for consolidating its geopolitical influence. Europe, which has not yet achieved homogeneity, will be torn in several directions: Germany and Italy will be drawn to Russia for commercial reasons, France and unreliable Central Europe to a more politically united EU, and Great Britain will try to find a balance within the EU, while maintaining a special relationship with the weakening US. There will also be those who will try to quickly grab a piece of the regional pie - Turkey in the territory of the former Ottoman Empire, Brazil in the Southern Hemisphere, and so on ... "

That's how Mr. Brzezinski thought. About 20-30 years ago, each of his articles was an event in the political science community, not to mention his books. His foresight is simply fantastic.
And who is this Barak? It seems that he is just a successful businessman. Well, yes, now he is an ambassador, his view on Turkey is interesting. Even more interesting is what recommendations he gives to his government🤔
Has he written any articles or books?
He is not a political scientist. I did not continue the search, fearing disappointment: what if I stumble upon his book with a title like "How to Become a Millionaire?":rolleyes: and not something like "Global Chessboard"
 

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After reading these posts, I decided to look for any statements, articles or books written by this "lover" of the Ottoman Empire. As often happens, in response to a request on this topic, I was recommended, among other things, the book "Strategic Vision" by Zbigniew Brzezinski. I looked through the table of contents and came across something amazingly relevant for today.

"PART III. The World After America by 2025. Not China, but Chaos
1. The Post-American Confusion

If America loses its leadership, it is unlikely that it will pass to any one successor, as most now predict for China. If a sudden, widespread crisis of the American system sets off a rapid chain reaction leading to global economic and political chaos, then America's gradual march toward increasing decline in all areas and/or an endlessly escalating war with Islam is unlikely to end even by 2025 with the "coronation" of a successor to the world throne. By then, no power will be ready to take on the role the world has assigned to the United States since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. What is more likely is a long period of rather chaotic reshuffling of global and regional power, with far more losers than clear winners amid international instability and even potentially mortal threats to global well-being......»

«.......Even if America’s gradual slide into decline is uncertain and contradictory, it is possible that the leaders of the catch-up countries, including Japan, India, Russia, and some EU members, are already assessing how a potential American collapse would affect their own national interests. Indeed, it is possible that the prospects of a post-American disorder are already quietly influencing the agendas being developed in the offices of the world’s leading powers, and perhaps even current politics. Japan, wary of China’s assertive ambitions to dominate continental Asia, may be considering closer ties with Europe. Indian and Japanese leaders may be considering options for political or even military cooperation between their countries if America falls and China rises. Russia, for now mostly daydreaming (or even gloating) about the uncertain prospects of the United States, may be looking to the independent former Soviet republics as initial springboards for consolidating its geopolitical influence. Europe, which has not yet achieved homogeneity, will be torn in several directions: Germany and Italy will be drawn to Russia for commercial reasons, France and unreliable Central Europe to a more politically united EU, and Great Britain will try to find a balance within the EU, while maintaining a special relationship with the weakening US. There will also be those who will try to quickly grab a piece of the regional pie - Turkey in the territory of the former Ottoman Empire, Brazil in the Southern Hemisphere, and so on ... "

That's how Mr. Brzezinski thought. About 20-30 years ago, each of his articles was an event in the political science community, not to mention his books. His foresight is simply fantastic.
And who is this Barak? It seems that he is just a successful businessman. Well, yes, now he is an ambassador, his view on Turkey is interesting. Even more interesting is what recommendations he gives to his government🤔
Has he written any articles or books?
He is not a political scientist. I did not continue the search, fearing disappointment: what if I stumble upon his book with a title like "How to Become a Millionaire?":rolleyes: and not something like "Global Chessboard"
He is very close to the UAE,that should tell you more then enough.
 

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After reading these posts, I decided to look for any statements, articles or books written by this "lover" of the Ottoman Empire. As often happens, in response to a request on this topic, I was recommended, among other things, the book "Strategic Vision" by Zbigniew Brzezinski. I looked through the table of contents and came across something amazingly relevant for today.

"PART III. The World After America by 2025. Not China, but Chaos
1. The Post-American Confusion

If America loses its leadership, it is unlikely that it will pass to any one successor, as most now predict for China. If a sudden, widespread crisis of the American system sets off a rapid chain reaction leading to global economic and political chaos, then America's gradual march toward increasing decline in all areas and/or an endlessly escalating war with Islam is unlikely to end even by 2025 with the "coronation" of a successor to the world throne. By then, no power will be ready to take on the role the world has assigned to the United States since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. What is more likely is a long period of rather chaotic reshuffling of global and regional power, with far more losers than clear winners amid international instability and even potentially mortal threats to global well-being......»

«.......Even if America’s gradual slide into decline is uncertain and contradictory, it is possible that the leaders of the catch-up countries, including Japan, India, Russia, and some EU members, are already assessing how a potential American collapse would affect their own national interests. Indeed, it is possible that the prospects of a post-American disorder are already quietly influencing the agendas being developed in the offices of the world’s leading powers, and perhaps even current politics. Japan, wary of China’s assertive ambitions to dominate continental Asia, may be considering closer ties with Europe. Indian and Japanese leaders may be considering options for political or even military cooperation between their countries if America falls and China rises. Russia, for now mostly daydreaming (or even gloating) about the uncertain prospects of the United States, may be looking to the independent former Soviet republics as initial springboards for consolidating its geopolitical influence. Europe, which has not yet achieved homogeneity, will be torn in several directions: Germany and Italy will be drawn to Russia for commercial reasons, France and unreliable Central Europe to a more politically united EU, and Great Britain will try to find a balance within the EU, while maintaining a special relationship with the weakening US. There will also be those who will try to quickly grab a piece of the regional pie - Turkey in the territory of the former Ottoman Empire, Brazil in the Southern Hemisphere, and so on ... "

That's how Mr. Brzezinski thought. About 20-30 years ago, each of his articles was an event in the political science community, not to mention his books. His foresight is simply fantastic.
And who is this Barak? It seems that he is just a successful businessman. Well, yes, now he is an ambassador, his view on Turkey is interesting. Even more interesting is what recommendations he gives to his government🤔
Has he written any articles or books?
He is not a political scientist. I did not continue the search, fearing disappointment: what if I stumble upon his book with a title like "How to Become a Millionaire?":rolleyes: and not something like "Global Chessboard"

always remember that the guys are part of establishment, so while they give plenty of truths they also give plenty of misdirection. Its good for the enemies of the United States to think that the USA is on the verge of collapse, that way it numbs the minds of her rivals and makes them less suspicious of american moves. The Russians probably believed the same when they invaded Ukraine. The Turks are constantly fooled by America is leaving the middle east or the pivot to the east. With Isreal in the middle east not only is America never leaving, she's a permeant and dangerous threat.

The PKK agenda is being followed for decades now. Sometimes the americans gave Turkiye a few crumbs to keep them on board, but the reality is greater middle east. Lebanon destroyed, Jordan, Egypt Vassalized. Palestine erased of the map. Iraq destroyed and Kurdistan created. Syria has Turkiye but for all intents and purposes its going the same way as Iraq. Iran had all her proxies annihilated the Israelis have started the next phase where they will the bomb shit out of iran at will moving forward.

Internally the promotion of Kurdistan, the attack on everything Turkish and patriotic is in aid of this. With the major obstacles being the army and the constitution. Well they fucked the army and the constitution is on her last legs.

But where brezinksi was right, had the Turks had a patriot government by now we probably would have taken most of nothern Iraq and Syria, moving foward parts of the balkans too. This is probably why they had feto bring their islamists too power within Turkiye.
 

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obviously chomsky is another "authorised" anti-establishment shill, but has anyone read this book to confirm what's said here? Because it sounds bang on the money.


"The new shape that the USA wants to give to the Middle East was described as follows in the book "The Fateful Triangle" by American Professor Noam Chomsky: "In the Middle East, nationalism and national identity must be destroyed. To achieve this, the Middle East must be Ottomanized. Thus, there will be no national power or resistance in the region to oppose Western interests, and the wheels of the systems will operate smoothly."
 

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obviously chomsky is another "authorised" anti-establishment shill, but has anyone read this book to confirm what's said here? Because it sounds bang on the money.


"The new shape that the USA wants to give to the Middle East was described as follows in the book "The Fateful Triangle" by American Professor Noam Chomsky: "In the Middle East, nationalism and national identity must be destroyed. To achieve this, the Middle East must be Ottomanized. Thus, there will be no national power or resistance in the region to oppose Western interests, and the wheels of the systems will operate smoothly."
''Must be blah blah blah'',just not possible at all.
 

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let me add something else about american imperial strategy. Every time they invade and destroy a nation, or every time they support a terrorist entity it is nearly always portrayed as a failure by their media. This of course is a strategy of deception. Its to make America's enemies think first the Americans are failing and secondly that they have no long term strategies in which they are pursuing. Just look at how easily our government has been fooled not to act when it came to the PKK. The last trick was that American troops are pulling out. Years pass and the american agenda moves forward at the expense of the region.

But if we focus on the middle east, its balkanisation process continues in the same direction. One by one Muslim majority nations are being destroyed by them. All of them are being undermined by America and consistently so. This is a clear agenda at work.

You see when we look at Turkiye, imagine 20 years from now how far the defence industry would be forward. Fighter jets, ballistic missiles, endless armed drones, massive layered air defence. Who could f'k with us? Well our enemies see this too, hence why were being broken from within.

Just like Islamic civilisation fell with the fall of the great Turkic empires Ottomans, Safavids, Mughals, Goldern Horde. You end the Turkish state and Islamic civilisation is on course to being completely subdued to where it will mean nothing at any level of power projection.
 

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US Ambassador to Türkiye Tom Barrack: the best system for Türkiye is the Ottoman Millet system

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Looks like they're not hiding their plans anymore.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/1lrfdm1

Its good for them because the economy was controlled by Jews, Armenians and Greeks not the Turks.

Millet system nay have worked at the time but in the end it destroyed the Ottomans just like the Habsburg Empire got destroyed.

I dont want it. Gokturks ruined themselves by making the Chinese equal to them we seen when they married Chinese princesses the Chinese destroyed the Gokturks.

Turks usually destroy themselves in the long term. Thats our history.

Us Turks should have been colonists and place big emphasis on turkifying Balkans and the Middle East. Millet system stopped that process.
 

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