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Tom Barrack's recent statements have caused some concern.

He has previously mentioned that Türkiye should veer away from being a nation state. And now his statements point towards a multi-ethnic, multi-religious model for Türkiye.

I believe Ümit Özdağ mentioned this years ago, he called AKP a partner of a pan-Abrahamic order. That might sound cultish, but really what it means is a middle east that's divided and controlled by pro-US leadership. Hence why we removed Assad, and why the US attacked Iran. It's all pretty obvious and out in the open, yet there's still a lot of people who think we're an independent actor.
His statements cause more concern among the Zionists, radical Kurdists, Armenians and Greeks as far as I can see.

They think he is a Turkish asset that is bringing American policies in line with Türkiye.

For example:

He has an unorthodox -yet correct IMO- approach to the Middle East and he doesn't talk diplomatically -he's not a diplomat anyways. That's why his statements can be disturbing for many parties. However, I believe his words and actions have been extremely pro-Türkiye so far. He facilitated the collapse of the so-called SDF and indirectly criticized Israel in many cases.

I personally agree with many of his observations & vision about the Middle East and Türkiye.

Hakan Fidan also recently mentioned that he wishes to add Israel into a bloc after the war is finished
He counted some requirements for this to be achieved. Such as acceptance of Palestian statehood by Israel -which is not going to happen. That's giving middle finger in diplomatic language.
 

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His statements cause more concern among the Zionists, radical Kurdists, Armenians and Greeks as far as I can see.

They think he is a Turkish asset that is bringing American policies in line with Türkiye.

For example:
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/tom-barrack-turkey-iran-israel-hezbollah-middle-east-fd19addd
He has an unorthodox -yet correct IMO- approach to the Middle East and he doesn't talk diplomatically -he's not a diplomat anyways. That's why his statements can be disturbing for many parties. However, I believe his words and actions have been extremely pro-Türkiye so far. He facilitated the collapse of the so-called SDF and indirectly criticized Israel in many cases.

I personally agree with many of his observations & vision about the Middle East and Türkiye.
The Trump administration is held by the balls by the Israeli lobby. Do you really think Tom Barrack is an outlier?

Israel doesn't want any strong nation states in the region. Syria is no longer a threat, HTS was literally funded by the CIA and today's Syria is absolutely not a threat to Israeli ambitions. Therefore YPG isnt needed anymore.

Meanwhile PKK has more political power inside Türkiye than ever before despite supposedly being dismantled. Also, I guarantee they're stacking up FPV drones as we speak.

Tom Barrack's embrace of Türkiye is like when the coalition backed the Istanbul government in the early 20th century...
 

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Israel doesn't want any strong nation states in the region. Syria is no longer a threat, HTS was literally funded by the CIA and today's Syria is absolutely not a threat to Israeli ambitions. Therefore YPG isnt needed anymore.
Syria hasn't been a threat since 80s. The idea that YPG was a vice against Baath Syria is absurd; it never was.
 

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WTF Türkiye still asking to buy F35 and showing itself like US puppy , just say 'we dont want F35' go faxk yourself USA , we dont need u , your aircraft or anything else from u . From president to ordinary citizens ,we should say this ...
Dont be so emotional,its just politics.
 

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The Trump administration is held by the balls by the Israeli lobby. Do you really think Tom Barrack is an outlier?
That's one of the things that confuses me as well. But then how do we explain the hatred coming from Türkiye's enemies towards Barrack? Why do they campaign for his removal from the post?

Israel doesn't want any strong nation states in the region. Syria is no longer a threat, HTS was literally funded by the CIA and today's Syria is absolutely not a threat to Israeli ambitions. Therefore YPG isnt needed anymore.
Then why did Israel attack Syria, blow up much of its heavy equipment and invade strategic locations right after the revolution succeded? Why do pro-Israeli accounts keep calling Sharaa a terrorist, an islamist etc.?

What is your source about HTS being funded by the CIA?

Tom Barrack's embrace of Türkiye is like when the coalition backed the Istanbul government in the early 20th century...
I think you are missing a tiny detail.

Türkiye today is not under occupation of a coalition of super powers. We are on the rise and super powers of the last few centuries are on decline.
 

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Then why did Israel attack Syria, blow up much of its heavy equipment and invade strategic locations right after the revolution succeded? Why do pro-Israeli accounts keep calling Sharaa a terrorist, an islamist etc.?
Why did Israel support Hamas against secular Palestinian resistance decades ago?

Why did the CIA back radical Islamist groups, including HTS and even ISIS in the first place?

Their playbook is quite simple, but Muslims fall for it time after time. Islamists, and Jihadists in particular are useful, but ultimately once the plug is pulled they become the ultimate boogeyman. Like you don't even need to justify a war campaign again them, Western politicians and citizens will blindly support it.

Related to this, there is a huge campaign to demonize Muslims in the west, and restore Christianity (which would actually be bad for the west, and LGBT has been a huge factor in this mess as well). This isn't organic, there's been a push to send millions of refugees to Western countries and the ultimately cause a massive rift between two groups that have nearly the same population globally. If huge anti-immigration and anti-Muslim uprisings happened in Europe, this would essentially give Israel free reign to do whatever they want in the Middle East, with even more backing then they have currently.

You need to dig below the surface and see that the US and Israel see Muslims as both a weapon and and excuse to expand influence. Saudi Arabia has been complicit in this for decades.
 

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Why did Israel support Hamas against secular Palestinian resistance decades ago?

Why did the CIA back radical Islamist groups, including HTS and even ISIS in the first place?

Their playbook is quite simple, but Muslims fall for it time after time. Islamists, and Jihadists in particular are useful, but ultimately once the plug is pulled they become the ultimate boogeyman. Like you don't even need to justify a war campaign again them, Western politicians and citizens will blindly support it.

Related to this, there is a huge campaign to demonize Muslims in the west, and restore Christianity (which would actually be bad for the west, and LGBT has been a huge factor in this mess as well). This isn't organic, there's been a push to send millions of refugees to Western countries and the ultimately cause a massive rift between two groups that have nearly the same population globally. If huge anti-immigration and anti-Muslim uprisings happened in Europe, this would essentially give Israel free reign to do whatever they want in the Middle East, with even more backing then they have currently.

You need to dig below the surface and see that the US and Israel see Muslims as both a weapon and and excuse to expand influence. Saudi Arabia has been complicit in this for decades.

A big reason the western elites flooded the west with "Muslims" is because it helped the dehumanisation process. Without saudi backed wahhabi islamist minded people in the west the dehumanisation process would have been much harder. Turks up until recently were a big counter argument against this point, especially those with the Ataturk mindset. But truth be told Turks are being thrown into the same category as how they see the arabs, morrocans, pakistanis etc. Perceiving all Muslims to be ugly looking 3rd world savages.

It also serves as a way to unite white europe who traditionally without an outside threat despise each other. I remember how europeans from the continent in europe were looked down on here by the english. They were all seen as "eastern european" garbage. Especially the europeans from the balkans were all seen as idiots and criminally minded. The romanians and albanians, were seen as the lowest of the low and if not for Muslims probably still would be. Now if you were to travel Europe you will soon discover that most Europeans have serious issues with each other.

Muslim migrations brought into europe predominatly by anglo-american/zionist intention helps unite europe by finding common purpose against the other, while also aiding in the dehumanisation process against Muslims. In general my experience of Muslims from north Africa, from the middle east has been quite negative. I've met so many hostile pakistani Muslims that 2 minutes interaction with them makes you think all Muslims are trash. This is what is happening in england and the english are probably some of the least racist people in europe. If the english are starting to hate Muslims, no chance to improve the image with the rest of europe.

I pointed it out before but Ataturk understood the psycology of the european, he presented an image of the Turk which for the european was synomonous with being a Muslim, as being something positive. This isnt about being white or brown skinned, its about presenting a respectable image that doesnt frighten the west. This is important since the west especially back then had all the power. Because remember, in order to destroy you they have to dehumanise you first.

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The image Ataturk crafted for the Turks protected the Turks and protected the Islamic world. The image he created was hard to dehumanise because once your dehumanised, the zionist pigs can get away with any crime they commit and their crimes are endless.

Our friend posted the video about the jewish world congress talking to germany about how they "need to hold the Turks back", its also the same reason that the "Turk" identity is relentlessly under attack both within Turkiye and outside it. So Turks have to remember who they historically were and not what the western backed isalmists like feto or the grand orient created freemasonic muslim brotherhood want Turks to be.

The salvation is to reconnect with who we are, then a real solution can be found.
 
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