TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Ryder]

But we're not really European are we? Anatolia was considered Asia too for centuries.

So why do you care so much if Europe accept us as white/European or whatever?

I feel more connection to Spain/Italy/and some Northern Europe region than say Saudi Arabia that see us Turks as their slaves.

The very same thing you accuse the Europeans of feeling towards Turks the East Asians and Arab nations feel the same too. Like it or not we have no "friends" in Asia.

I said destiny afterall.

Europeans see Turks subhumans by the way which is way worse than the way Saudi Arabians percieve us. Saudis are racist towards anybody even to other Arabs.

But Europeans took it even further with racism by justifying it with science and taking peoples skulls putting them in museums.

Either way Turkiye's foreign policy should be pragmatic we should not be in either bloc.

EU literally tells Turkiye if they want to join the EU they goyta give up on Cyprus. Not to mention they got Cyprus in the EU as a middle finger to Turkiye.

You say we have no friends in Asia. Its the same with Europe by the way.

 

[Ryder]

You guys need to calm down...

Firstly I don't trust the Europeans or Americans. They've backed terrorists and subversive religious organizations in Türkiye for decades.

With that said, the west as a whole is in decline. The good times are over, and whilst quality of life in the west will be superior to most of the world for decades to come, they've reached the limits of their power.

For years NGOs, bought out politicians and lobby groups have been accelerating the decline of the west. They've been pushing LGBT, mass immigration and a number of other malevolent agendas. Now the west is slowly transforming into what the Muslim world has been for the past 50 or so years. You'll see reactionary movements accross the west, and no this won't revive their power, if anything it'll sow the seeds of chaos.

Europe is weak, the US is incapable and hated by most of the world, meanwhile the youth in the west are as a whole sick of Israeli influence in their own countries. They're looking for new partners and Türkiye stands out as the best option. Does this mean we must accommodate them? No. But this "Decolonization Forum" is just stupid and bad PR. It's no different than the people in the US demanding that Türkiye return to the treaty of Sevres.

By the way, if you're saying "Cairo, Riyad, etc. are going to be new centers of technology and culture" I truly question your intelligence. The second oil money is gone a mass exodus will happen, why do you think Saudis and Qataris are snapping up property in Türkiye? Also this obsession with combining Turks, Arabs and Kurds as one is another agenda I'm not fond of, these people are as a whole a burden, they hate Turks, and Arabs in particular see us as "Mawali". I can see deepening cooperation with Syria and Iraq, but they'll back stab as as they've done before.

Türkiye should neither be striving to fit into the west, nor should it be choked by Arabic influence. We have our own unique culture, history and linguistic family, and ultimately we need to carve our own path instead of being foot soliders for Westerners or Arabs.


To some it up, we're low on the list of enemies of the West right now. Hell, Israel and Jewish influence is probably seen as big of a threat as China is. Why the hell are we causing a diversion when all we needed to do is sit back? The posts about this "Decolonization Forum" are going viral, very suspicious.

That decolonisation forum is so pathetic man. As if we are victims.

We are the grandsons of empires and conquerors. We dont need this victimhood mentality bullshit. We never got colonised our ancestors took the fight to Europe.

Akps doctine is the Turkish man burden. That the Turkish man has to burden itself to save others. They have a romanticised view of history. That everybody wants our rule back which is BS.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Suleymancı cult is opening a huge headquarters in Germany with the support of the German government...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2081270675201839240

Just as I said the west was supporting subversive religious organizations.

What do you have to say @Bogeyman @Zafer @IC3M@N FX ?

Next FETÖ in the making, are you going to support them then say you were against them the whole time and blame opposition for it?

 

[TurkWolf]

You guys need to calm down...

Firstly I don't trust the Europeans or Americans. They've backed terrorists and subversive religious organizations in Türkiye for decades.

With that said, the west as a whole is in decline. The good times are over, and whilst quality of life in the west will be superior to most of the world for decades to come, they've reached the limits of their power.

For years NGOs, bought out politicians and lobby groups have been accelerating the decline of the west. They've been pushing LGBT, mass immigration and a number of other malevolent agendas. Now the west is slowly transforming into what the Muslim world has been for the past 50 or so years. You'll see reactionary movements accross the west, and no this won't revive their power, if anything it'll sow the seeds of chaos.

Europe is weak, the US is incapable and hated by most of the world, meanwhile the youth in the west are as a whole sick of Israeli influence in their own countries. They're looking for new partners and Türkiye stands out as the best option. Does this mean we must accommodate them? No. But this "Decolonization Forum" is just stupid and bad PR. It's no different than the people in the US demanding that Türkiye return to the treaty of Sevres.

By the way, if you're saying "Cairo, Riyad, etc. are going to be new centers of technology and culture" I truly question your intelligence. The second oil money is gone a mass exodus will happen, why do you think Saudis and Qataris are snapping up property in Türkiye? Also this obsession with combining Turks, Arabs and Kurds as one is another agenda I'm not fond of, these people are as a whole a burden, they hate Turks, and Arabs in particular see us as "Mawali". I can see deepening cooperation with Syria and Iraq, but they'll back stab as as they've done before.

Türkiye should neither be striving to fit into the west, nor should it be choked by Arabic influence. We have our own unique culture, history and linguistic family, and ultimately we need to carve our own path instead of being foot soliders for Westerners or Arabs.


To some it up, we're low on the list of enemies of the West right now. Hell, Israel and Jewish influence is probably seen as big of a threat as China is. Why the hell are we causing a diversion when all we needed to do is sit back? The posts about this "Decolonization Forum" are going viral, very suspicious.

If you remove Balkans. Rest of Europe do not even care what goes on in Turkiye. I mean, the Europeans all hate each other too. The Germans/French Italy/France and so on.
But I refuse to believe the whole Europe hate Turks thing. I travel and meet many Europeans not one of them ever treated me differently for being a Turk.
Now the Balkans is different. These people we can never get along with. I don't think their hatred is ever going to change.

 

[TurkWolf]

Europeans see Turks subhumans by the way which is way worse than the way Saudi Arabians percieve us. Saudis are racist towards anybody even to other Arabs.

You sure about that?
When you say Europeans you mean just Greeks right?
Arabs from Saudi to Syria hate all things Turkish because these people were/are servants to the west.
Europeans worry about Turks and at the same time don't want to die fighting Turks. so the next best thing is have good loyal servants like Arabs to hate Turks so they can be honourary white slaves.

Kurds, Arabs, Asians and more. All will do anything to be liked by the westerner. and that is mostly to use their men to fight Turks. Just like in WW1.

And we will never be accepted into EU as we Turks won't accept being cucks.
Won't give up Cyprus. And Azerbaijan will not be harmed.

Anyways point I am trying to make is Europeans don't hate us Turks as much as Asians. And Europeans only get their power from these loyal little servants that're a threat to Turkiye's ambitions.