TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[OPTIMUS]

I have been waiting for this for so long.

Hope it becomes a nucleus for a future unity in the Islamic World. We have a great potential together.

This is actually hilarious.

What's being sold as an alliance between the world's three most influential majority Muslim states is actually just a cover for protecting Israel against the next round of fighting.

Turkey and Pakistan will send troops and weapons to Saudi Arabia, will dedicate their precious resources to stopping Iran's missiles and drones, all in return for what? More Saudi money and influence creeping into their own countries.

Muslims need to wake the f*ck up

With this agreement, any troop movements within three countries will have an international legal basis.

How much money the Saudis have is already irrelevant.

It's about the troops! You can guess which troops!

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

With this agreement, any troop movements within three countries will have an international legal basis.

How much money the Saudis have is already irrelevant.

It's about the troops! You can guess which troops!

So Turkish and Pakistani troops will put their lives on the line to protect Saudi Arabia and by extension give Israel a better chance at surviving the next Iranian onslaught? Are you seeing this as a good thing?

 

[OPTIMUS]

So Turkish and Pakistani troops will put their lives on the line to protect Saudi Arabia and by extension give Israel a better chance at surviving the next Iranian onslaught? Are you seeing this as a good thing?

It's about the transfers of Pakistani troops to Saudi Arabia and to Turkey.

 

[Fatman17]

It's about the transfers of Pakistani troops to Saudi Arabia and to Turkey.

In the 80s there was a division level deployment of Pakistan Army to Saudi Arabia for "defensive " purposes. I'm assuming that the Saudi Arabia army is now better equipped and trained to fend for itself. Any foreign Troops in Saudi Arabia will be mostly a "ceremonial show of force "

 

[OPTIMUS]

In the 80s there was a division level deployment of Pakistan Army to Saudi Arabia for "defensive " purposes. I'm assuming that the Saudi Arabia army is now better equipped and trained to fend for itself. Any foreign Troops in Saudi Arabia will be mostly a "ceremonial show of force "

Not this time either.

This time something big is coming. In Greece and Israel, alarm bells are already ringing. Because they know it.

The Pakistani troops are being equipped with Turkish material, paid for by the Saudis. These are mainly stationed in Turkey. The Turkish troops deployed in Pakistan are mostly from TURAF and DzKK. They will have some personnel from the civilian Turkish institutions internally.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Not this time either.

This time something big is coming. In Greece and Israel, alarm bells are already ringing. Because they know it.

The Pakistani troops are being equipped with Turkish material, paid for by the Saudis. These are mainly stationed in Turkey. The Turkish troops deployed in Pakistan are mostly from TURAF and DzKK. They will have some personnel from the civilian Turkish institutions internally.

Saudi Arabia is allies with Israel. Any opposition to Israel is just it saving face in front of the "Muslim world". To the US and Israel, Saudi Arabia has been a useful tool for spreading Islamism that's beneficial to western interests. You realise Central Asia is next in line right? If they can spread radical Islam there then they can stop China's rise and completely destroy Russia from its soft underbelly.

I'm not pro or anti anything, but we're very clearly helping Western interests under the guise of a so called islamic alliance.

Stop believing the lies that any of this is for combating Greece or Israel, pure nonsense. Pakistan and Türkiye are being brought into the middle eastern mess as the first line of defence against Iran, and neither are going to benefit from it.

 

[Fatman17]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2085707926727987208

Here is a Indian viewpoint which may be entirely opposite to the Indian government stance which we don't know about.

 

[OPTIMUS]

I don't know how I can explain everything in short form:

First, Turkey was pushed into such an alliance due to Israeli-Greek activities against Turkey. This unnamed pact was also fully accepted by the EU, so that some factories (VOLKSWAGEN) in Germany were restructured for Israeli needs.
Very hesitant trade from rating agencies under Israeli influence, ukrainien activities in the Black Sea, Morocco/Israel brotherhood created enough free space for Turkey's domestic political actions (SÜREC/politics, ARRESTS/finances).

This alliance is a counterpart to what the EU and ISRAEL are planning against Turkey.

Later on, it will become very clear to them that they made a mistake when IRAQ and SYRIA declare their wish to participate in our alliance (SÜREC).

Then we have them by the balls.

From now on, expect more attacks in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia supported by Iran.

IRAN has never ceased to act deceitfully against the Turks. They will continue to do so.

 

[Skyfall]

I think it makes sense if the Yanks leave Saudi. Then the Iranians have no legitimate reason to attack Saudi Arabia. But with things the way they are, and us not knowing all the information, i am more than skeptical at this point. I mean the Ukranians can’t join Nato right now because they are already in a conflict. And the Saudis we can say are still involved in a conflict.

 

[Tabmachine]

I think it makes sense if the Yanks leave Saudi. Then the Iranians have no legitimate reason to attack Saudi Arabia. But with things the way they are, and us not knowing all the information, i am more than skeptical at this point. I mean the Ukranians can’t join Nato right now because they are already in a conflict. And the Saudis we can say are still involved in a conflict.

If the agreement requires Saudi Arabia to shift its defence arrangements completely from the US to Turkiye/Pakistan, then it could make sense.

If Saudi Arabia will continue to host US troops / equipment, and allow them to operate from their soil, the agreement is strategically incoherent in objective terms.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

So the pact mean attack ın 1 atrack on 3 but İran is atracking Saudi , Does that mean we should attack İran and protecting a genocidal state of israel ? Or US bases in Saudi dont count ....!

 

[MonteCarlo]

So the pact mean attack ın 1 atrack on 3 but İran is atracking Saudi , Does that mean we should attack İran and protecting a genocidal state of israel ? Or US bases in Saudi dont count ....!

Iran already fired missiles to both Turkey itself and to Azerbaijan which Turkey has defence pact with and we didn't respond. I don't think the deal with Saudi Arabia makes any difference.

Pakistan-Saudi Arabia pact was also ongoing while Iran was pummeling Saudi Arabia and they didn't really respond either.

It is hard to say anything without knowing the details of the deal

 

[Huelague]

From now on, expect more attacks in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia supported by Iran.

Its the opposite. They want to join the alliance.

 

[TurkWolf]

Saudi Arabia is allies with Israel. Any opposition to Israel is just it saving face in front of the "Muslim world". To the US and Israel, Saudi Arabia has been a useful tool for spreading Islamism that's beneficial to western interests. You realise Central Asia is next in line right? If they can spread radical Islam there then they can stop China's rise and completely destroy Russia from its soft underbelly.

I'm not pro or anti anything, but we're very clearly helping Western interests under the guise of a so called islamic alliance.

Stop believing the lies that any of this is for combating Greece or Israel, pure nonsense. Pakistan and Türkiye are being brought into the middle eastern mess as the first line of defence against Iran, and neither are going to benefit from it.

People keep acting like Saudi Arabia is some heroic “anti‑Israel” force, but that’s just the performance they put on for the wider Muslim world. In reality, Riyadh and Tel Aviv have been coordinating quietly for years. intelligence, security, regional strategy ..and everyone in world knows it. The narrative that only the UAE is close with Israel is also misleading. Jordan signed peace decades ago, Egypt has deep security cooperation, and several other Muslim‑majority states maintain quiet ties.

So when people try to sell this Pakistan–Saudi “Islamic alliance” as something built for Muslim interests, it’s just not true. The structure of that alliance lines up perfectly with US and Israeli strategic priorities: containing Iran, stabilising supply routes, and keeping the regional balance exactly where Washington wants it.

The Muslim world is being told this is unity and strength, but the actual beneficiaries are the same powers that have shaped Middle Eastern security for decades. Pretending otherwise only hides who this alignment really serves.

And let’s be honest ...will Saudi Arabia or Pakistan lift a finger if Greek Cypriots attack Turkish Cypriots? Will they stop calling Turks “genociders” whenever it suits their political narratives? Of course not. This alliance doesn’t serve Türkiye’s interests, and it never has. These nations will forever follow the Westerners this alliance won't change that.

Türkiye’s real strategic future isn’t in Middle Eastern power games built around protecting US and Israeli priorities. Our strength comes from aligning with Turkic nations... states that actually share our history, identity, and long‑term interests. That’s where genuine partnership exists, not in alliances that only use us as a buffer for someone else’s agenda.

 

[Huelague]

The narrative that only the UAE is close with Israel is also misleading. Jordan signed peace decades ago, Egypt has deep security cooperation, and several other Muslim‑majority states maintain quiet ties.

And we have had one of the deepest.