News Greece gets 1200 M117 for bargain price

[MASA]

These Are The New Armored Vehicles Of The Greek Army!

The "green light" for the acquisition of the first 4x4 M1117 Guardian type armored vehicles is expected to turn on soon with the result that Greece is

greekcitytimes.com

 

[Foulgrim]

The 1200 M1117 ASV Guardian granted by the USA to Greece at the cost of transporting only the wheeled vehicles which is estimated at less than 1 million euros

 

[EternalTurk]

The 1200 M1117 ASV Guardian granted by the USA to Greece at the cost of transporting only the wheeled vehicles which is estimated at less than 1 million euros

Not bad..

 

[Foulgrim]

Not bad..

From nothing it is not bad but to adequately protect the territorial integrity of the country in this area we need something better than the 1200 M1117 ASV Guardian. These ASVs are used with 20 years of service. We need something better in terms of technical specifications and with fewer years of service. For example, since we are not allowed to buy weapons systems from China and Russia, we could take the evolution of the M1117 ASV Guardian which is the Textron Tactical Armored Patrol Vehicle as it provides better electro systems and heavier shielding. But unfortunately we are going to be comfortable with something free that is also inferior and not by putting a little hand in our pocket for something better. The issue is that like Greece we had to find something deterrent for the amphibians FNSS PARS III 8X8.4X4 & 6X6 but also for the FNSS ACV-15 where Turkey has thousands. With the M1117 ASV Guardian you can not have a strong deterrent, especially when Turkey has entered the phase of upgrading the FNSS ACV-15.

 

[Glass🚬]

Quantity ≠ Quality.

 

[Foulgrim]

Probably within 2021 the arrival of the M1117 ASV Guardian.

ΥΕΘΑ: Πιθανόν εντός του 2021 η άφιξη των M1117 - Πτήση

Ο χρόνος άφιξης των μεταχειρισμένων τεθωρακισμένων τροχοφόρων οχημάτων αναγνώρισης (ΤΤΟΑ) M1117 στην Ελλάδα δεν μπορεί να υπολογιστεί με ακρίβεια την παρούσα χρονική περίοδο, όμως εκτιμάται ότι θα υλοποιηθεί εντός του 2021, αναφέρει ο Νίκος Παναγιωτόπουλος στη Βουλή. Απαντώντας σε ερώτηση που...

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[Foulgrim]

On the way the first 44 M1117 ASV Guardian, in a few hours will be in the hands of the Greek Army.
The 44 M1117 ASV Guardian were US military vehicles stationed in US camps in Germany. They have never seen a battle, which makes them "new".
Due to some delays regarding the receipt of the armored vehicles, Greece lost valuable used material (wireless transceivers, weapons, etc.) that could be included with their receipt. The main weapon of the vehicles is the grenade launcher Mk19, as well as two machine guns, a 12.7 mm M.2HB, and a 7.62 mm FN MAG. If Greece had moved earlier, the weapons would have been left in the vehicles. However, they were removed because, according to the strict laws of the USA, it is not possible to leave weapons left in "yards" of used material. We do not know how many vehicles their free weapons were released from, but it is certainly a number that costs the Greek Armed Forces. There were many who said that Greece should buy something else, without of course naming an alternative. With the money of the Greek taxpayer there are many solutions, but none for free. All vehicles do not have wireless transceivers so they will have to be purchased to be fitted to the 1200 M1117 ASV Guardian that will come in total. There are Greek companies that make such equipment as Intracom Defense, EFA Group and MILTECH. The cost of each new Mk19 grenade launcher is 17,000 $. If you multiply that by 1,200 you get a cost of 20 million $, without discounts. With discounts due to mass order we are talking about less than 12-14 million euros. The 12.7 mm M.2HB and 7.62 mm FN MAG machine guns are available in quantities in the Greek Army, the FN MAGs may need some modification at the base to be placed in the vehicles. M1117 ASV Guardian vehicles want transportation costs from the USA to Greece. Unfortunately, the Greek state is to blame for this because many vehicles that were on European territory were "lost". Fortunately, there are many such vehicles in California but the cost of shipping has skyrocketed in recent months. Again, the cost for each vehicle, to come to Piraeus or another port (eg Volos), reaches 10,000 to 15,000 $. That is less than 20 million $ for transportation from the USA. If we add up all these extra costs, then the Greek Army will have to spend 80 to 90 million euros for new wireless transceivers, new machine guns, new bombers and transportation. Of course, they will not need that much, because the Chief of the General Staff of the Army, during his last visit to the USA, secured some weapons. Greece will either buy the others or find them in its weapons depots. That is, at a very reasonable cost (estimated at around 40 million euros), Greece will acquire 1,200 vehicles with ceramic shielding, weapons and radios. The completion of the receipt of the vehicles is expected to take place within 2022. The valuation of the 1,200 M1117 ASV Guardian is 960,000,000 $ if purchased. Each vehicle, even today, sells for 800,000 $. The MEXAS ceramic protection of the M1117 ASV Guardian is superior to the protection of the Turkish MRAP design as their protection is of the category STANAG 4569 Level 3 & 4 while MEXAS is used up to MBT. If anyone is knowledgeable about Turkish MRAP let them know their opinion.

EKTAKTO: Καθοδόν τα πρώτα 44 M1117 του Ελληνικού Στρατού, σε λίγες ώρες θα βρίσκονται σε Μονάδες - Πτήση

Μια εξαιρετικά θετικά είδηση επιβεβαιώνεται, καθώς τα πρώτα Μ1117 ASV που μας παραχωρεί ο Αμερικανικός Στρατός είναι καθοδόν για τη χώρα μας. Κάποια στιγμή αύριο θα βρίσκονται πλέον σε Μονάδα του Ελληνικού Στρατού, κι από εκεί θα ξεκινήσει η αξιοποίησή τους. Πρόκειται για τα πρώτα 44 οχήματα που...

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Η αλήθεια για τα M1117 του Ελληνικού Στρατού, και η παραπληροφόρηση έχει όρια - Πτήση

Τις επόμενες μέρες, ο Αμερικανικός Στρατός “φορτώνει” τα πρώτα Μ1117 που βρίσκονται σε γερμανικό έδαφος, και πριν το τέλος του μήνα, θα βρίσκονται στη χώρα μας, ως ιδιοκτησία του Ελληνικού Στρατού. Μετά από δεκαετίες “πατεντών”, ο Ελληνικός Στρατός θα αποκτήσει δωρέαν τροχοφόρα θωρακισμένα...

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[Combat-Master]

The MEXAS ceramic protection of the M1117 ASV Guardian is superior to the protection of the Turkish MRAP design as their protection is of the category STANAG 4569 Level 3 & 4 while MEXAS is used up to MBT. If anyone is knowledgeable about Turkish MRAP let them know their opinion.

Turkey have a few vehicles that have boron-carbide composite armour. Infact Nurol produces composite armour in Turkey and has exported to many countries.

NMS 4X4 is developed to have modular composite armour
FNSS PARS 4x4 has light weight modular composite armour that doubles as floatation aid as well.

M117 Guardian does have good protection, but it's not outworldly especially to those in Turkish inventory.

 

[Akritas]

The first 44 M1117 ASV vehicles of the Greek Army are located on Greek territory, and in fact are in a suitable place on the railway network, where they will be unloaded and moved to the first Units.
Guardians will replace the un-armored Mercedes GD240.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464170774881882186

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464649677396185091

Some more pictures of the 44 vehicles that’s been delivered.

The vehicles have 260HP weight 13,4 ton.
Aside from the 1200 vehicles the tweet mentions 350 M2 Bradley armoured vehicles to be granted.

 

[Akritas]

Official receipt of the M1117 Reconnaissance Wheeled Armored Vehicles at 301st Military Base Factory.
Freshly painted and armed with a 12.7mm machine gun,a 40mm caliber machine gun and thermal camera.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1466355716470587392

 

[Akritas]

US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt revealed that another 400 ASV's will be delivered early next year, in 2022.

Ambassador Pyatt’s Remarks at the Opening Ceremony for Arrival of M1117 Armored Security Vehicles

Ambassador Pyatt: "The 44 vehicles here today are just the taster of a very large transfer of 1,200 ASVs. 400 more will be delivered early next year in 2022. And I know that an Hellenic Army team has already traveled to the U.S. Sierra Army depot in October to identify another 400, and will be...

gr.usembassy.gov

 

[Nutuk]

Albeit the armor is a bit on the light side it is a hell uva improvement for the Greek army.

1200 light armored vehicles for various jobs (ambulance, command & control, reconnaissance, APC) is a big improvement for the Greek army mobility (means we have to spend 1200 MAM-L extra)